update.freak Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Hello, it would be great if a sort option by beats per minute (BPM) could be added -> from low BPM to high BPM. With this I can start in the list with music which has a BPM of 128, which is mainly EDM for me -> save time of creating playlists. The BPM should be analysed in the app. (VirtualDJ for example does this on PC). So not read out the BPM from meta data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewilley Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 It would take too long to scan the BPM from audio data, especially with large libraries. Currently even the BPM metadata tag isn't read, but if it was then it could be made a sort option. Andre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingdutchman Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 @andrewilley @update.freak bpm is currently not available in the Poweramp media database so would need to be added to a table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shubham Studio DJ Remix Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 it will not take more time to scan because there are many apps have involved bpm in music players and it is easy to envolve. database/filename.xml default_database dll(rev)= "androidmanifest.xml" .dll(rev)resources must include. main-target=assets/data/"xyzfile.bin/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewilley Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 23 minutes ago, Tapori Gaming said: it will not take more time to scan Yes it would take more time. Reading a pre-existing BPM tag from file metadata would be simple, and could be added to the scanning process easily enough. However doing what the OP originally asked by decompressing and scanning the audio content for each of (say) 20,000 files and generating a new BPM value for each would significantly slow down the scanning process. It is also a process that is not really suited to complete automated batch operation anyway - for example you wouldn't want a BPM value associated with spoken word files, audiobooks, podcasts, radio shows, or any files with otherwise variable content (e.g. concert recordings which may contain several songs). Andre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shubham Studio DJ Remix Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 But we have already Invovled our Tempo function key and Adjustment for Experience like BPM. I dont think Beats per minute is much more usefulness. we have to add some effects in the tempo section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewilley Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 It would be possible to add some code to interpret and display the current BPM during playback of any given file, but the OP was asking for a method to sort and group all song files in category lists by their BPM. Not everyone's requirement of course, but if a user's music collection had been suitably curated and BPM tag data embedded then it would be technically easy enough to do. Andre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shubham Studio DJ Remix Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 BPM some times crashes app... while songs are playing because of there are many problems with this. Currently there is no need for this function but it is not so hard to add in Poweramp. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewilley Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 15 minutes ago, Tapori Gaming said: BPM some times crashes app... while songs are playing As Poweramp does not use BPM information at all, that is clearly inaccurate. BPM never crashes Poweramp. As to whether there is any need for this, that's rather up to users' requirement - and this is a Feature Requests thread. There have been a number of other user requests over the years for PA to access BPM tag data (search for BPM). Andre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shubham Studio DJ Remix Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 there are some apps including discdj which crashes in audio playing. i am saying for other apps Poweramp never crashes when using tempo or any mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewilley Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 There are future plans for a feature to scan through the whole library to update missing ReplayGain tags, and it would be possible to pick up BPM data during the same process. I'm not sure whether Max intends this to simply update the local library database or write the found data back to embedded tags - I suspect the former is more likely though, as batch writing to all files is a potentially problematical process. Andre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shubham Studio DJ Remix Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) 37 minutes ago, andrewilley said: There are future plans for a feature to scan through the whole library to update missing ReplayGain tags, and it would be possible to pick up BPM data during the same process. I'm not sure whether Max intends this to simply update the local library database or write the found data back to embedded tags - I suspect the former is more likely though, as batch writing to all files is a potentially problematical process. Andre Yes it is really good. BPM data can be get from actual file of songs or reverse the meta data to lib.so Directly without data it can be possible from player with advanced BPM machanism Other players doesn't collects the data of full library for bpm. Just Collection of One by One File Will Successful because full scan causes some times failure but try both ways and give in build 945-949 i know it will take more time for that. but do the best. There is implementation of BPM directly with tempo and an extra option for BPM in beta testing will give feedback about this. Shubham Edited September 22, 2022 by Tapori Gaming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
update.freak Posted September 22, 2022 Author Share Posted September 22, 2022 Ok, that's great news! Thanks for your replys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shubham Studio DJ Remix Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 42 minutes ago, update.freak said: Ok, that's great news! Thanks for your replys Work is in Progress of Implementation of BPM Counter. Soon it will given in build 945-948(beta) Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotleyG Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 50 minutes ago, Tapori Gaming said: Work is in Progress of Implementation of BPM Counter. Soon it will given in build 945-948(beta) Huh? I don't recall seeing the developer make any commitment to this. There are many other feature requests that I would expect are in a priority of this, in my personal opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewilley Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 55 minutes ago, Tapori Gaming said: Soon it will given in build 945-948(beta) I rather doubt it will be that soon, please don't assume commitments without knowing the facts. Andre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shubham Studio DJ Remix Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, MotleyG said: Huh? I don't recall seeing the developer make any commitment to this. There are many other feature requests that I would expect are in a priority of this, in my personal opinion. Developer is busy in work of Build 944. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shubham Studio DJ Remix Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 1 minute ago, andrewilley said: I rather doubt it will be that soon, please don't assume commitments without knowing the facts. Andre 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Very Good Sir Andre. it is hope for users. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewilley Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 13 minutes ago, Tapori Gaming said: Very Good Sir Andre. I haven't been Knighted as yet, so just plain Andre is fine. Andre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shubham Studio DJ Remix Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 23 hours ago, andrewilley said: I haven't been Knighted as yet, so just plain Andre is fine. Andre @andrewilley ACCEPTED. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotleyG Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 9 hours ago, Tapori Gaming said: Developer is busy in work of Build 944. That may be, but unless you are the developer, you don't know what is being worked on for release at any time. Better to know when it is released, then to guess or suggest what is unknown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmp Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 @Tapori Gaming BMP detection is not planned short term, sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Sebestyen Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 16 minutes ago, maxmp said: @Tapori Gaming BMP detection is not planned short term, sorry. There's a tag in mp3s for BPM... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewilley Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 42 minutes ago, Thomas Sebestyen said: There's a tag in mp3s for BPM... Reading from the tag (if present) into the library database would not be too hard, but BPM detection (i.e. decoding and examining and interpreting the audio data content) is more complex, and not something that will be implemented any time soon. Andre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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