ralfiii Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Hello! I tested with current release: Poweramp V3 build 841-arm32-play Device: Samsung Galaxy S8 Android V9 standard ROM When importing playlists that contain songs with umlauts in the file name, these entries are deleted from the playlist. It seems Poweramp generally has problems with files with umlauts. You can add an "umlaut" song later manually, but when you then try to move it to a different location in the playlist, the playlist is not updated (where all other actions cause the playlist to be updated). The added item remains in the last place. I attach a fake-playlist that should demonstrate the bug. Cheers, Ralf UmlautsBug.m3u Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/17601-poweramp-removes-songs-with-umlauts-%C3%A4%C3%B6%C3%BC-in-filename-from-playlists/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralfiii Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 Uups, sorry, mistyped, not 32 but 64bit. The version info says: v3-build-841-arm64-play [841004-6c22e356] Full version 64bit I've got this version from Google Play store. If I need a different version: Where do I get it? Cheers Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/17601-poweramp-removes-songs-with-umlauts-%C3%A4%C3%B6%C3%BC-in-filename-from-playlists/#findComment-77687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingdutchman Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 If you got this from playstore I am mistaken, sorry. You have the official version. I will have a look at your playlist though Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/17601-poweramp-removes-songs-with-umlauts-%C3%A4%C3%B6%C3%BC-in-filename-from-playlists/#findComment-77690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingdutchman Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 When importing playlists that contain songs with umlauts in the file name, these entries are deleted from the playlist. What do you mean by import? Poweramp's import of playlists will import native android playlists. Any external .m3u playlists should be located in a folder that Poweramp can scan. It will pick up your playlist, no need to import. Secondly, looking at your sample, the issue appears to be with the umlaut in the folder name. It displays correctly in my app and i would expect that Poweramp would have no issue. Have you checked the tracks actually exist on your device? and if they exist, carefully check that the full path matches the entry in the playlist. Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/17601-poweramp-removes-songs-with-umlauts-%C3%A4%C3%B6%C3%BC-in-filename-from-playlists/#findComment-77691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralfiii Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 "Import" might be a misleading expression. I copy my mp3 files and the M3U files on a SD card and plug the card into the android device. Poweramp then reads the card the builds it's database. That's what I meant with "import". However, I wanted to create a "real" playlist with a few songs to demonstrate for you and doing that I think I found the problem: For creating playlists I use MusicBee and when exporting playlists, MusicBee writes the files UTF-8 excoded and not - as Poweramp seems to expect - as UTF-8-BOM. I'll get in contact with the MusicBee guys, maybe they can address that, as BOM makes sense anyway. Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/17601-poweramp-removes-songs-with-umlauts-%C3%A4%C3%B6%C3%BC-in-filename-from-playlists/#findComment-77706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingdutchman Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Yes, to ensure characters are interpreted correctly i added a bom (Byte Order Mark) option in my app when creating m3u playlists Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/17601-poweramp-removes-songs-with-umlauts-%C3%A4%C3%B6%C3%BC-in-filename-from-playlists/#findComment-77707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralfiii Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 Ok, there exporting has deliberately been changed to "without BOM". See https://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=17948.0 referring to https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2223882/whats-the-difference-between-utf-8-and-utf-8-without-bom I agree with you and would expect BOM because it's smart to define encoding, but as we don't live in an ideal world, could you make that an option? Thanks a lot in advance! Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/17601-poweramp-removes-songs-with-umlauts-%C3%A4%C3%B6%C3%BC-in-filename-from-playlists/#findComment-77708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingdutchman Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Both options are available in my app, without (default) or with bom Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/17601-poweramp-removes-songs-with-umlauts-%C3%A4%C3%B6%C3%BC-in-filename-from-playlists/#findComment-77709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralfiii Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, flyingdutchman said: Both options are available in my app, without (default) or with bom Really? Cool! Where can I find that option? I can't find it... Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/17601-poweramp-removes-songs-with-umlauts-%C3%A4%C3%B6%C3%BC-in-filename-from-playlists/#findComment-77710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralfiii Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, ralfiii said: Really? Cool! Where can I find that option? I can't find it... Ok, I understand, It's not Poweramp but a separate app. That doesn't help me. I'd like to have an option in Poweramp so that it understands playlists that don't have a BOM. Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/17601-poweramp-removes-songs-with-umlauts-%C3%A4%C3%B6%C3%BC-in-filename-from-playlists/#findComment-77711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingdutchman Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 One approach could of course be to ditch musicbee and create playlists on your device itself. This would very likely resolve your issue Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/17601-poweramp-removes-songs-with-umlauts-%C3%A4%C3%B6%C3%BC-in-filename-from-playlists/#findComment-77712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralfiii Posted August 28, 2019 Author Share Posted August 28, 2019 21 hours ago, flyingdutchman said: One approach could of course be to ditch musicbee and create playlists on your device itself. This would very likely resolve your issue That's unfortunately no option. I prepare playlists for parties on my PC with the best possible environment (big screen, keyboard), and when everything is done I'd like to transfer everything to the tablet/mobile phone. For the moment I wrote a little app that scans all m3u files and if the UFT8 prefix is missing, it adds it. Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/17601-poweramp-removes-songs-with-umlauts-%C3%A4%C3%B6%C3%BC-in-filename-from-playlists/#findComment-77723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewilley Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Hopefully Max could code around this problem now that it is known what Musicbee is doing. If you could upload one of your problem files for reference, I'm sure that would help. Andre Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/17601-poweramp-removes-songs-with-umlauts-%C3%A4%C3%B6%C3%BC-in-filename-from-playlists/#findComment-77814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralfiii Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share Posted September 2, 2019 Ok, attached there's a playlist in "normal" (bad) format, and one where BOM was added. Cheers, Ralf UmlautsBug.7z Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/17601-poweramp-removes-songs-with-umlauts-%C3%A4%C3%B6%C3%BC-in-filename-from-playlists/#findComment-77816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeutonJon78 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 You can just set Musicbee to export m3u8 files, and Poweramp will import them correctly. I've been doing this for awhile. "Menu > Edit> Edit Preferences" ---> "Devices" -> "Configure" -> "Settings > Playlist storage > save as format" and pick m3u8. Then you'd sync your device again. You'd want to delete the old m3u playlists off of your phone. Musicbee actually follows the standard where it output the playlists with the expected character type. m3u is supposed to be ascii, m3u8 is supposed to be UTF-8. Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/17601-poweramp-removes-songs-with-umlauts-%C3%A4%C3%B6%C3%BC-in-filename-from-playlists/#findComment-77848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewilley Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 I rather assumed that we were already discussing exporting using UTF-8 encoding (so .M3U8 files), but that MusicBee was not adding the correct BOM when using that format. Could the OP clarify please? Andre Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/17601-poweramp-removes-songs-with-umlauts-%C3%A4%C3%B6%C3%BC-in-filename-from-playlists/#findComment-77857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralfiii Posted September 4, 2019 Author Share Posted September 4, 2019 57 minutes ago, andrewilley said: I rather assumed that we were already discussing exporting using UTF-8 encoding (so .M3U8 files), but that MusicBee was not adding the correct BOM when using that format. Could the OP clarify please? Andre You are right. MusicBee always exports in UTF-8 (unless you select M3U(ascii)), but fails to add BOM. And, TeutonJon78, from what I know there is no "standard" file format for m3u. Afaik it's originally by Fraunhofer there never was a specification, the file format just evolved driven by VLC and winamp. That's always the problem with weak defined de-facto standards. However, WinAmp can handle m3u in UTF8 as long as there's a BOM. BOM is NEVER a bad idea, but as MusicBee exports all UTF8 without BOM, Poweramp always fails upon importing. Also with M3U8. Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/17601-poweramp-removes-songs-with-umlauts-%C3%A4%C3%B6%C3%BC-in-filename-from-playlists/#findComment-77861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralfiii Posted September 5, 2019 Author Share Posted September 5, 2019 But, maybe a good solution: Poweramp sould assume UTF8 format for M3U8 files - even if the BOM is missing. This way Poweramp can continue to read M3U files w/o BOM as Ansi. Cheers, Ralf Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/17601-poweramp-removes-songs-with-umlauts-%C3%A4%C3%B6%C3%BC-in-filename-from-playlists/#findComment-77893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeutonJon78 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 I don't know what to tell you, I have zero problem with my UTF-8 playlists coming from MusicBee -- umlauts and all. Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/17601-poweramp-removes-songs-with-umlauts-%C3%A4%C3%B6%C3%BC-in-filename-from-playlists/#findComment-77907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingdutchman Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Poweramp does create UTF8 compliant playlist format. That is what the extension ("m3u8") indicates. The BOM is a Byte Order Mark placed at the start of the file, to tell the os how to interpret the content. Can I suggest to troubleshoot , use my app New Playlist Manager to experiment which format actually works (Free version also has this) Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/17601-poweramp-removes-songs-with-umlauts-%C3%A4%C3%B6%C3%BC-in-filename-from-playlists/#findComment-77911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralfiii Posted September 18, 2019 Author Share Posted September 18, 2019 On 9/6/2019 at 10:37 AM, TeutonJon78 said: I don't know what to tell you, I have zero problem with my UTF-8 playlists coming from MusicBee -- umlauts and all. Thanks a lot!!!! The playlists by MusicBee for m3u and m3u8 are binary identically. Both contain UTF8 without BOM. Maybe therefore I didn't test m3u8 files properly. However, I did now and Poweramp reads them correctly. 1000 thanks, just in time, on saturday we celebrate our wedding.... Cheers, Ralf Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/17601-poweramp-removes-songs-with-umlauts-%C3%A4%C3%B6%C3%BC-in-filename-from-playlists/#findComment-78155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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