Album art search.

[Abhishekn]

There should be an option to type and search album art on web when press and hold on the album art. Some songs or artists don't get their album art correctly by few tags or tracks with no tags so by adding search on web option manually like edit tags would be better instead of relying on some wrong album arts generated with incomplete tags information.

[Fitzian]

You're already on a smartphone, if the artwork finder already built in doesn't get you what you want, you can choose any image from your device (where you find the image is up to you). Certain services that make auto-filling tag and artwork easier, have prohibitions against commercial use, so they can't just be tacked onto Poweramp.

When search engines elsewhere do the job, Poweramp shouldn't have to become a search engine in addition to a local music player, IMHO.

[Abhishekn]

1 minute ago, Fitzian said:

You're already on a smartphone, if the artwork finder already built in doesn't get you what you want, you can choose any image from your device (where you find the image is up to you). Certain services that make auto-filling tag and artwork easier, have prohibitions against commercial use, so they can't just be tacked onto Poweramp.

When search engines elsewhere do the job, Poweramp shouldn't have to become a search engine in addition to a local music player, IMHO.

Just like the lyrics search option, there are option to do web search or particular genius,etc sources for lyrics. 

So for album art this can be possible so it can be convenient.

What your answer is if there is wrong or no album art for particular track then the user should first download it through web and then search and select the downloaded album art. This also adds extra images in gallery. Many people won't like to do this for each song.

Simple solution would be to add web search option which is fast method and doesn't need the user to download and set the album art while also adding extra non desired images in gallary to display. 

[MotleyG]

31 minutes ago, Abhishekn said:

Simple solution would be to add web search option which is fast method and doesn't need the user to download and set the album art while also adding extra non desired images in gallary to display. 

A even simpler solution would be for the user to properly tag their music before transferring it to their mobile device. And further, adding albumart at that stage removes the requirement for any player to do so.

[Fitzian]

I might be an outlier, but I don't add music that doesn't already have metadata or artwork in place. Missing fields, lower res art, if it needs tweaking I deal with that before it is even imported in Poweramp. It requires a small amount of inconvenience, yes, but it works. There's software on PC (mp3tag, musicbrainz) and Android (autotagger) that goes a long way to making this easier. 

I'm merely suggesting that if the automatic album art finding feature is not retrieving the results you want (due to missing tags, or whatever reason), you will find your problems more readily fixed by just finding the artwork yourself, and adding it as Poweramp allows you to do so. If your gallery fills up with album art, no one says you cannot just delete them.

[andrewilley]

Poweramp uses tag information to connect a cover image to a filename anyway - although this is a fallback to using the filename directly. But results are not guaranteed, it very much depend on what the good old internet has to offer. That's why there is also the option of using a local Gallery image.

The best solution is to find a great image online (I use AlbumArtExchange.com) and then embed it directly into the audio file using a tag editor. If you use a decent batch editor (e.g. MP3Tag on a computer) you could also update the incorrect tags while you are at it.

Andre

[MotleyG]

Agreed. Without the “essential” tags filled properly that would help retrieve albumart, it also means Poweramp cannot properly sort these tracks into the correct categories. Making it a challenge to browse the library effectively. 

[Abhishekn]

1 minute ago, MotleyG said:

A even simpler solution would be for the user to properly tag their music before transferring it to their mobile device. And further, adding albumart at that stage removes the requirement for any player to do so.

Adding tags might be solution but in some cases a user might not be aware if information tags related to some songs or the user might not be satisfied with the album art shown with those tags. So the solution I gave would be better as web search gives many choices of selection and also the selected image can be searched for high resolution image. In current situation some images which are shown through tags don't have good resolution quality.

[andrewilley]

51 minutes ago, Abhishekn said:

Just like the lyrics search option, there are option to do web search or particular genius,etc sources for lyrics. 

Lyric searching is handled by external apps, not by Poweramp. The results are then handled and displayed by that external app too, and not stored within Poweramp's caches (although there is an API that allows transfer of data).

Probably the easiest thing would be to use Poweramp's Info/Tags editor screen to type in the correct title and artist information, and then use the Album Art option (in the same menu) to search for more relevant artwork. Fixes both problems with minimal work.

Otherwise, find the image first and download it, then use the Gallery option in PA. 

Andre

[Abhishekn]

5 minutes ago, andrewilley said:

Poweramp uses tag information to connect a cover image to a filename anyway - although this is a fallback to using the filename directly. But results are not guaranteed, it very much depend on what the good old internet has to offer. That's why there is also the option of using a local Gallery image.

The best solution is to find a great image online (I use AlbumArtExchange.com) and then embed it directly into the audio file using a tag editor. If you use a decent batch editor (e.g. MP3Tag on a computer) you could also update the incorrect tags while you are at it.

Andre

Sir with all due respect what you said above might be good for those who understand certain things. A normal user who doesn't understand or don't want to do all those things would surely want a easy feature of web search just like the lyrics web search option which is already provided in the app.

I love Poweramp and appreciate your work but kindly think about the feedback it would be helpful and beneficial to normal users.

[MotleyG]

36 minutes ago, Abhishekn said:

Adding tags might be solution but in some cases a user might not be aware if information tags related to some songs or the user might not be satisfied with the album art shown with those tags. So the solution I gave would be better as web search gives many choices of selection and also the selected image can be searched for high resolution image. In current situation some images which are shown through tags don't have good resolution quality.

I guess there will always be more than one way to arrive at the destination. In this case however, if the initial search turns up the wrong artwork due to missing or incorrect tag details, the only correction is for the user to manually add corrected details into the search. If that is required, the point being suggested is to first make the that same correction to the file tag information instead, then run the search again from the existing option. Now the file has better tag details and the correct artwork.

Besides this, I would think for the typical user of Poweramp, something like metadata and the associated tag fields would be an effort most are well aware of. Properly tagged music files are the only way the app can effectively manage a library with all of the categories managed correctly. 

Edited July 25, 2023 by MotleyG

[Abhishekn]

3 hours ago, MotleyG said:

I guess there will always be more than one way to arrive at the destination. In this case however, if the initial search turns up the wrong artwork due to missing or incorrect tag details, the only correction is for the user to manually add corrected details into the search. If that is required, the point being suggested is to first make the that same correction to the file tag information instead, then run the search again from the existing option. Now the file has better tag details and the correct artwork.

Besides this, I would think for the typical user of Poweramp, something like metadata and the associated tag fields would be an effort most are well aware of. Properly tagged music files are the only way the app can effectively manage a library with all of the categories managed correctly. 

A normal user these days who doesn't know/doesn't want to do adding tags would rather do web search. Try doing it yourself. Tell Google assistant or voice typing in search box to show a particular album art and quickly select it. Done !

[MotleyG]

15 minutes ago, Abhishekn said:

A normal user these days who doesn't know/doesn't want to do adding tags would rather do web search. Try doing it yourself. Tell Google assistant or voice typing in search box to show a particular album art and quickly select it. Done !

Maybe while you are at it, you can also ask Google Assistant to find you a better source for music that comes with the correct tags and Album Art already embedded. 

[Abhishekn]

37 minutes ago, MotleyG said:

Maybe while you are at it, you can also ask Google Assistant to find you a better source for music that comes with the correct tags and Album Art already embedded. 

No point in further discussion because what you say is to not make things simpler while also to stay outdated. Adding features, increasing functionality and keeping updated to new hardware/software is what makes people do their desired tasks easily.

[andrewilley]

8 hours ago, Abhishekn said:

... web search just like the lyrics web search option which is already provided in the app.

There is no manual lyrics search facility either, opening an external search is based on the tag contents. Of course if you use Google as your preferring lyric provider app then you can always enter a new search string if nothing useful is shown, but that's just a Google web page, nothing is returned back into Poweramp itself. It's basically just opening your web browser as a separate app to do the search and display the results. 

Anyway, it's up to Max whether he feels it would be a generally useful feature to help with broken/missing tags in files by offering a free-text search for album art, which would return image results from Google. Another useful one would be to offer a 'Paste' button next to the 'Pick From Gallery' link, which would allow you more easily to cut'n'paste from elsewhere.

Andre