Somnath Khole Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 (edited) If Using MusicFX Audio Starts Distorting Device: POCO X3 INDIAN M2007J20CI Q.Why Poweramp Not Providing Bit Perfect Mode. Edited July 27 by Somnath Khole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewilley Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 MusicFX simply means allowing audio processing outside of Poweramp, which would be up to whatever external app or process you are using. BitPerfect would prevent any sort of processing at all (MusicFX, EQ, crossfade, volume control, etc). Do you mean output following source frequency, which you can vote for here: Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somnath Khole Posted July 27 Author Share Posted July 27 @andrewilley Then Guide me For Superior Quality Audio Settings (MusicFX, EQ, Crossfade, Volume Control, etc.) Toggling On/Off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotleyG Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 3 hours ago, Somnath Khole said: Then Guide me For Superior Quality Audio Settings This means turning all of those DSP options off. Every one of them adds a layer of processing that impacts the original file. That's the point of true bit perfect that is currently not an option. This depends on your connected devices and speakers/headphones having the ability to play music as it should be played. But not all hardware is up to the task. YMMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somnath Khole Posted July 28 Author Share Posted July 28 (edited) @MotleyG am using phones internal Hi-Res DAC Over 3.5mm and JBL TUNE 510BT Bluetooth Headset mostly JBL TUNE 510BT Best Settings For Me? Edited July 28 by Somnath Khole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotleyG Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 6 hours ago, Somnath Khole said: using phones internal Hi-Res DAC Over 3.5mm and JBL TUNE 510BT Bluetooth Headset Well the BT function alone defeats any need for bit perfect. These are using compression already. And the don't use the 3.5mm output so no Hi-Res from the phone's DAC is in use either. 6 hours ago, Somnath Khole said: Best Settings For Me? That's a personal choice. I wouldn't bother making any changes to the Poweramp output options for your hardware. Default will be fine. Just use the EQ and fine tune as you see fit for your preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewilley Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 10 hours ago, Somnath Khole said: Best Settings For Me? If there was any such thing, the app would have a "Best Settings For Me" button. There is an EQ profile for the JBL Tune 510BT in the AutoEQ list in the Equalizer screen, so that would be a good place to start to get the most natural and flat sound from your equipment, and then adjust to your own tastes from there. Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somnath Khole Posted July 28 Author Share Posted July 28 (edited) @andrewilley I want to Reduce DSP Processing To Avoid Quality Loss, Your Reply Regarding Stock AutoEQ Also Very Useful. I Am Used that Previously. Edited July 28 by Somnath Khole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotleyG Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 1 hour ago, Somnath Khole said: I want to Reduce DSP Processing To Avoid Quality Loss We are going in circles here. The only way to minimize quality loss is to turn off the DSP functions and EQ. Poweramp uses 64-bit processing to minimize issues once you do enable them. However the more features you turn on, the more potential for quality loss. There is no magic solution to have it both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somnath Khole Posted July 31 Author Share Posted July 31 @andrewilley Am Facing DVC Low Volume issue with Both Wired and Wireless headphones in MIUI V12.5.3.0 . 2.MIUI 13.0.1.0 Has DVC Volume Glitches, Cause Sound Comes From Both Wireless Headphone and Phone's Earpiece Speaker, If Enabling No DVC Then Volume Control isn't working, Volume Level Always At Peak. There is Something Issue With MIUI ROM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzian Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 47 minutes ago, Somnath Khole said: @andrewilley Am Facing DVC Low Volume issue with Both Wired and Wireless headphones in MIUI V12.5.3.0 . 2.MIUI 13.0.1.0 Has DVC Volume Glitches, Cause Sound Comes From Both Wireless Headphone and Phone's Earpiece Speaker, If Enabling No DVC Then Volume Control isn't working, Volume Level Always At Peak. There is Something Issue With MIUI ROM. Try the per output "no dvc headroom gain" toggle, as well as option "force speaker off" under advanced tweaks. As well as AAudio output if you have issues with Hi Res and DVC on your firmware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somnath Khole Posted July 31 Author Share Posted July 31 @Fitzian Already Followed These Steps, No DVC Working Fine with Any Output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzian Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 2 hours ago, Somnath Khole said: @Fitzian Already Followed These Steps, No DVC Working Fine with Any Output. Welp, good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somnath Khole Posted August 3 Author Share Posted August 3 (edited) @andrewilley @maxmp IMPORTANT Poweramp HAS DVC ISSUE Using POCO X3 INDIAN MIUI 13.0.1.0/12.5.8.0 Poweramp Has DVC Volume Glitches, Cause Sound Comes From Both Wireless Headphone and Phone's Earpiece Speaker in (MIUI 13.0.1.0/12.5.8.0 BOTH) 2. If Enabling No DVC Then Volume Control isn't working in (MIUI 13.0.1.0), Volume Level Always At Peak. There is Something Issue With Poweramp DVC OR MIUI ROM. 3. TOGGLING NO DVC ON/OFF OR CHANGING SAMPLE RATE/FORMAT AT 100% VOLUME CAUSING SOUND GLITCH. *IF am Playing Music With Poweramp DVC and Then Opening any other app As I start playing audio in another app, Sound Coming From Earpiece Speaker and Wireless headphone Simultaneously. This issue Only Comes With Poweramp DVC + Hi-Res Not Between Another apps that's why I am saying Poweramp Has Something Issue with DVC. All Outputs Working Fine Except Hi-Res Not Sure, Please Tell Me If Am Only Facing This Issue. Edited August 3 by Somnath Khole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewilley Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Hi-Res is not compatible with all devices and/or Android variants, it is listed as Experimental. Please use one of the other output methods. Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somnath Khole Posted August 4 Author Share Posted August 4 (edited) @andrewilley How To Read Audio Output Detection Logs ? Example: 09:53:16.725 build-976-bundle-play Device: POCO Xiaomi M2007J20CI karna_in karna "qcom" karna RKQ1.200826.002 test-keys [arm64-v8a, armeabi-v7a, armeabi] sm6150 is_snapdragon MIUI=12 FAILED to read /vendor/etc/audio_output_policy.conf reading /vendor/etc/audio_io_policy.conf has direct_pcm_24, sampling_rates=44100|48000|88200|96000|176400|192000|352800|384000 AUDIO_OUTPUT_FLAG_DIRECT direct_pcm_24 has direct_pcm_24 formats=AUDIO_FORMAT_PCM_24_BIT_PACKED|AUDIO_FORMAT_PCM_8_24_BIT|AUDIO_FORMAT_PCM_32_BIT FLAG_VARIANT_DIRECT_HD via direct_pcm_24 => FLAG_VARIANT_DIRECT_HD_NS odm_build_date_utc=1653978657 USB can handle Hi-Res - sdk=30 >>>OK flags=0xc14016600000000 FLAG_VARIANT_DIRECT_HD_NS FLAG_SUPPORTS_PCM_8_24 FLAG_SUPPORTS_PCM_24 FLAG_SUPPORTS_PCM_32 FLAG_SUPPORTS_UNITY_GAIN_STREAM FLAG_SUPPORTS_USB FLAG_NEEDS_EXTRA_SLEEPS FLAG_SUPPORTS_LDAC INTERNAL_OUTPUT_FLAG_SR_384K INTERNAL_OUTPUT_FLAG_SR_352K INTERNAL_OUTPUT_FLAG_SR_192K INTERNAL_OUTPUT_FLAG_SR_176K INTERNAL_OUTPUT_FLAG_SR_96K INTERNAL_OUTPUT_FLAG_SR_88K INTERNAL_OUTPUT_FLAG_SR_48K INTERNAL_OUTPUT_FLAG_SR_44K Edited August 4 by Somnath Khole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somnath Khole Posted August 4 Author Share Posted August 4 (edited) @andrewilley Is Poweramp Follow Audio Output Detection Logs For in app All Audio Output Options ? B'Coz OPPO Phone's Have Different Directory/Path For Audio_Output_Policy.Conf Which is Not Showing in Poweramp. It shows Failed to Read. Edited August 4 by Somnath Khole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzian Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 (edited) 7 hours ago, Somnath Khole said: @andrewilley Is Poweramp Follow Audio Output Detection Logs For in app All Audio Output Options ? B'Coz OPPO Phone's Have Different Directory/Path For Audio_Output_Policy.Conf Which is Not Showing in Poweramp. It shows Failed to Read. > reading /vendor/etc/audio_io_policy.conf It's reading your device's capabilities just fine. Disable DVC if using Hi Res output on your device, as you reported numerously, it does not work. Try AAudio output instead, if you must use DVC. Edited August 4 by Fitzian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somnath Khole Posted August 4 Author Share Posted August 4 @Fitzian Am Trying With Multiple Smartphone Brands That's why Asking How To Read Audio Output Detection Logs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzian Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 34 minutes ago, Somnath Khole said: @Fitzian Am Trying With Multiple Smartphone Brands That's why Asking How To Read Audio Output Detection Logs. Poweramp is set up to read audio policy from a standard location, with tested fallbacks for different devices. What's the goal here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somnath Khole Posted August 4 Author Share Posted August 4 (edited) @Fitzian Files Stored On Different Path And Poweramp Not Detecting That files Example: OPPO Reno 8 5G Edited August 4 by Somnath Khole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somnath Khole Posted August 9 Author Share Posted August 9 (edited) @andrewilley @maxmp Device : POCO X3 INDIAN Variant Volume Control Not Working, Songs Playing At 100% Volume For No DVC + Hi-Res Audio Output Option. Edited August 9 by Somnath Khole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewilley Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 See my earlier comment, Hi-Res is not compatible with all devices and Android variants. Sometimes DVC will help, other times it's better to turn it off. Select the option that works for you and your device - for example I use AAudio 192kHz on my Samsung A54 / Android 14 as High-Res mode does not work on this firmware. Audio Policy "failed" messages are simply when PA tries to check various locations where the policy file might be stored on different devices (as not all manufacturers put it in the same place). It will use whichever one is actually found. Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somnath Khole Posted August 10 Author Share Posted August 10 17 hours ago, andrewilley said: See my earlier comment, Hi-Res is not compatible with all devices and Android variants. Sometimes DVC will help, other times it's better to turn it off. Select the option that works for you and your device - for example I use AAudio 192kHz on my Samsung A54 / Android 14 as High-Res mode does not work on this firmware. Audio Policy "failed" messages are simply when PA tries to check various locations where the policy file might be stored on different devices (as not all manufacturers put it in the same place). It will use whichever one is actually found. Andre That means Poweramp Hi-Res Output Provides Only Those Option Which Detected By Reading Audio_Output_Policy.Conf ??? If Audio Policy Not Found Then It'll Shows Limited Sample Rate/Format Output Options ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewilley Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 The audio policy document states what the hardware can support. However hi-res options also need to be supported by the firmware in the Android ROM, which is not always the case with all manufacturers and all versions. If it does not work on your device (which is quite possible) simply use a different output method. Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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