Flyer12 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Hello, I like very much Poweramp, but I think I will have to change it to another player (despite the high price I payed for your app)... 2 weeks ago I updated my phone to Android 6.0 and Poweramp lost everything from artcovers modified from Poweramp to song ratings, most played, etc... I thought that it was not a bug from the app since my OS had a major update... So I took 2 or 3 hours to give rates to my 1800 songs (it's essential for me), everything was fine.... But today I changed the SIM of my phone (the phone was off) and as the microSD is on the same tray as the SIM card, the microSD went off the phone, but I haven't done anything to the microSD, all the song were the same at the same place, etc... but when I switch on phone again, everything was gone, Poweramp had to rescan everything and all my ratings and most played songs had disapeared.... Hours of puting back ratings on my songs, GONE.... Please do something, loosing such data is terrible !!!!!! Thanks and Merry Christmas. App version : "alpha-build-703-play" Phone : Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro Android version : 6.0.1 ; MIUI version : MIUI Global 8.1 Stable 8.1.1.0 Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/9834-poweramp-losing-all-lists-of-most-liked-songs-and-most-played-songs-for-no-reason/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingdutchman Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 This is a well known and often discussed topic on this forum. In response to this I have added functionality to my New Playlist Manager app to allow you to backup and restore your Poweramp ratings and Times Played. In addition you can write your ratings to the tag of the track itself so you need never lose your ratings again. Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/9834-poweramp-losing-all-lists-of-most-liked-songs-and-most-played-songs-for-no-reason/#findComment-37815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer12 Posted December 25, 2016 Author Share Posted December 25, 2016 Thanks, I will look at your app, and yes, giving rates in the track itself is a good idea! Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/9834-poweramp-losing-all-lists-of-most-liked-songs-and-most-played-songs-for-no-reason/#findComment-37820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewilley Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 As TheoKlink has said, you are not the first person to experience this issue. Poweramp stores all of its internally generated information (internal playlists, ratings, play history, etc) in a database which refers to the exact location of each music file on your device. When you did the upgrade to 6.0, Android (for reasons only known to Google) changed the path of your SD Card, so Poweramp's scanner noticed that all of the files it had been working with had vanished - i.e. been deleted as far as it could tell - and thus removed all reference to them from the database. It then found a whole 'new' set of music files in a new location, and duly added them to the database as new music. Unfortunately, as these were considered new files, they were not included in any playlists/etc that were previously in use. Unfortunately, once this had happened, unless you have already created a backup of the app's data using something like Titanium Backup, or used TheoKlink's excellent app to save information in physical files not just in a transient database, then there is sadly no way to recover the old information. Andre Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/9834-poweramp-losing-all-lists-of-most-liked-songs-and-most-played-songs-for-no-reason/#findComment-37826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xezi Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 I'm experiencing the same issue with current and alpha versions. Playlists go bananas, and after some time are empty. Is Poweramp able to correctly manage playlists which reference .cue ? Thanks. Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/9834-poweramp-losing-all-lists-of-most-liked-songs-and-most-played-songs-for-no-reason/#findComment-37868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer12 Posted December 28, 2016 Author Share Posted December 28, 2016 On 26/12/2016 at 10:36 AM, andrewilley said: As TheoKlink has said, you are not the first person to experience this issue. Poweramp stores all of its internally generated information (internal playlists, ratings, play history, etc) in a database which refers to the exact location of each music file on your device. When you did the upgrade to 6.0, Android (for reasons only known to Google) changed the path of your SD Card, so Poweramp's scanner noticed that all of the files it had been working with had vanished - i.e. been deleted as far as it could tell - and thus removed all reference to them from the database. It then found a whole 'new' set of music files in a new location, and duly added them to the database as new music. Unfortunately, as these were considered new files, they were not included in any playlists/etc that were previously in use. Unfortunately, once this had happened, unless you have already created a backup of the app's data using something like Titanium Backup, or used TheoKlink's excellent app to save information in physical files not just in a transient database, then there is sadly no way to recover the old information. Andre Thanks for your answer and the explanation. But now, I found that the issue is not about the SD card or the update from Android 5.1.1 ; now at every reboot of the phone, all the data and the song in Poweramp are lost, no more ratings, no more "most played", no more "recently played", etc... The problem seems to come from Poweramp as with N7Player which I installed now, when I reboot my phone, the list of the recently/most played songs isn't deleted like in Poweramp... Now I will try to reinstall Poweramp, maybe it could help to fix this issue... Edit : It seems that reinstalling the app solved the problem, now even when I reboot my phone, the songs doesn't disapears and the lists in Poweramp stay in place.... Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/9834-poweramp-losing-all-lists-of-most-liked-songs-and-most-played-songs-for-no-reason/#findComment-37877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewilley Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 I'm guessing there were still some remnants of the old directory structure being remembered for some reason? Glad a reinstall worked. TheoKlink's app is a good way to back things up in the meantime though, until our own dev finally gets around to supporting writing this sort of data directly to the music files (which is unfortunately not too high up on the priority list at the moment, as he is working on trying to get v3 of Poweramp ready for final testing and release). Andre Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/9834-poweramp-losing-all-lists-of-most-liked-songs-and-most-played-songs-for-no-reason/#findComment-37891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtx Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 This is another thread in need of typo corrections to the title: loosing > losing list > lists Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/9834-poweramp-losing-all-lists-of-most-liked-songs-and-most-played-songs-for-no-reason/#findComment-37908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer12 Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 12 hours ago, andrewilley said: I'm guessing there were still some remnants of the old directory structure being remembered for some reason? Glad a reinstall worked. TheoKlink's app is a good way to back things up in the meantime though, until our own dev finally gets around to supporting writing this sort of data directly to the music files (which is unfortunately not too high up on the priority list at the moment, as he is working on trying to get v3 of Poweramp ready for final testing and release). Andre Okay, I see. Good luck to your dev! 1 hour ago, jtx said: This is another thread in need of typo corrections to the title: loosing > losing list > lists Sorry for that, my native language isn't english... Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/9834-poweramp-losing-all-lists-of-most-liked-songs-and-most-played-songs-for-no-reason/#findComment-37911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtx Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Flyer12, no problem at all. You'd be amazed at the number of native English speakers who use lose for loose, and loose for lose. Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/9834-poweramp-losing-all-lists-of-most-liked-songs-and-most-played-songs-for-no-reason/#findComment-37912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewilley Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 A lot of posts have been auto-translated I think, which doesn't always work so well with technical phrases. Sometimes I have a real struggle to work out what people are actually asking. Andre Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/9834-poweramp-losing-all-lists-of-most-liked-songs-and-most-played-songs-for-no-reason/#findComment-37916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingdutchman Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Jtx, a bit of a pedant. Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/9834-poweramp-losing-all-lists-of-most-liked-songs-and-most-played-songs-for-no-reason/#findComment-37926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer12 Posted June 23, 2017 Author Share Posted June 23, 2017 On 29/12/2016 at 11:25 AM, andrewilley said: I'm guessing there were still some remnants of the old directory structure being remembered for some reason? Glad a reinstall worked. TheoKlink's app is a good way to back things up in the meantime though, until our own dev finally gets around to supporting writing this sort of data directly to the music files (which is unfortunately not too high up on the priority list at the moment, as he is working on trying to get v3 of Poweramp ready for final testing and release). Andre Any news on this? I bought a new phone, but like before, re-rating all my songs/recreating the most played lists on Poweramp is still the most painfull part of the whole process, that's terrible, I would understand if your app was free, but I paid nearly 5 Euros, one of my most expensive app ever, for that price I'm waiting to see here some basic functions.... Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/9834-poweramp-losing-all-lists-of-most-liked-songs-and-most-played-songs-for-no-reason/#findComment-41424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewilley Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 As TheoKlink said earlier in the thread, his app could have done all that for you. Otherwise, when you reinstall, you are starting a fresh Poweramp setup. As for it happening natively in Poweramp, we're still waiting on the new user interface to get to beta release, and then get a full release, before any feature requests might even be looked into (and I don't know how high a priority this one will get even then). Andre Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/9834-poweramp-losing-all-lists-of-most-liked-songs-and-most-played-songs-for-no-reason/#findComment-41429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortan303 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Quote Poweramp stores all of its internally generated information (internal playlists, ratings, play history, etc) in a database which refers to the exact location of each music file on your device. As you may have recognized, many users are disliking your playlist/top-rated-songs handling. Why it's not possible (as an option), to store e.g. the rating of songs inside of the songs? If you prefer storing this data in the database, why you chose the fixed location to identify the song, and not for example a hash-tag? I'm in a need to change the phone. I've got about 800 top rated songs and its not gonna be no pleasure to re-tag the same songs again... as I already did a dozen of times. still didn't find the App of TheoKlink. regards, mo Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/9834-poweramp-losing-all-lists-of-most-liked-songs-and-most-played-songs-for-no-reason/#findComment-41983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingdutchman Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 If you are looking gor my app, details in my signature Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/9834-poweramp-losing-all-lists-of-most-liked-songs-and-most-played-songs-for-no-reason/#findComment-41988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewilley Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 8 hours ago, mortan303 said: still didn't find the App of TheoKlink. Theo's New Playlist Manager app is hidden on the Play Store, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flyingdutchman.newplaylistmanager under the searchable title "New Playlist Manager". ) Ratings and (to some extent) play-counts can be stored within SOME music file types (and Theo's app supports this) but the PA dev's reasoning is that because some formats don't support it, it would not be possible to use solely file-saved data in that way. Personally, I would love it if PA used its own database for fast access, but also wrote the same data back into the audio files if possible (and read it back again during a Rescan). However this sort of feature addition does not seem to be regarded as a priority against other development needs. Andre Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/9834-poweramp-losing-all-lists-of-most-liked-songs-and-most-played-songs-for-no-reason/#findComment-41989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortan303 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 13 hours ago, TheoKlink said: If you are looking gor my app, details in my signature Quote Theo's New Playlist Manager app is hidden on the Play Store, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flyingdutchman.newplaylistmanager under the searchable title "New Playlist Manager". ) Thank you both for your answers. Yes, I've found the App of Theoklink and installed it. I don't want to criticize the app yet, as long as I can't safely say, that it's not my handling, which leads to some problems. The software often stops responding and is closed by Android. Nevertheless, I guess, that creating some non-Poweramp-playlists already made me something much more easy. Am going to try a little further. kind regards, mortan Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/9834-poweramp-losing-all-lists-of-most-liked-songs-and-most-played-songs-for-no-reason/#findComment-42013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingdutchman Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Mortan, if you have issues with npm please get in touch by email rather than the forum. Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/9834-poweramp-losing-all-lists-of-most-liked-songs-and-most-played-songs-for-no-reason/#findComment-42018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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