casinero.triste Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 In foobar2000 I scaned all my files' track gain and they do all sound equally loud in foobar2000.But copied into the phone, some of them just sound much louder in Poweramp.I'm sure that songs are correctly updated onto the phone, and also that I've set the option as applying track gain.So what did I do wrong? Any help appreciated.And if this helps, it's ok for me to provide my files to you developers for analysis or something like that.Just don't want no more sudden-high-volume-songs piercing into ears while jogging... Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/4313-some-files-replaygain-dont-work-what-did-i-do-wrong/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillBrowne Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 OK,Under settings -> audio -> replay gainDo you have:Replay Gain: Apply GainSource: Track Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/4313-some-files-replaygain-dont-work-what-did-i-do-wrong/#findComment-16510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
casinero.triste Posted January 14, 2013 Author Share Posted January 14, 2013 Yes, definitely. Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/4313-some-files-replaygain-dont-work-what-did-i-do-wrong/#findComment-16519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowjoel Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Poweramp seems to use some sort of non-standard ReplayGain tag parsing. I don't see it working for me either.There are threads in the forum, you could try them, but for me it doesn't seem to work as it does on JRiver Media Centre on my desktop (same file, or transcoded file) Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/4313-some-files-replaygain-dont-work-what-did-i-do-wrong/#findComment-16523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
casinero.triste Posted January 14, 2013 Author Share Posted January 14, 2013 Do you mean this?If it really takes that many operations just to make songs equally loud in this app,I guess it's time to give GoneMAD a try... Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/4313-some-files-replaygain-dont-work-what-did-i-do-wrong/#findComment-16525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowjoel Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Yup, looks like that was the thread. Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/4313-some-files-replaygain-dont-work-what-did-i-do-wrong/#findComment-16526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillBrowne Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 OK,For one of the files you have used Foobar on to calculate and apply replay gain:Show the file in Foobar, right click -> Properties -> Properties TabDo you see a ReplayGain heading followed by values for Track Gain and Track peak? Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/4313-some-files-replaygain-dont-work-what-did-i-do-wrong/#findComment-16531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
casinero.triste Posted January 15, 2013 Author Share Posted January 15, 2013 Yes.I don't know how to upload images therefore I can't show you snapshots of my screen.A few minutes ago I copied files to the phone again and then did "full rescan" in Poweramp.(I'm not sure about the exact wording in english because I use traditional chinese UI.)Still no help. Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/4313-some-files-replaygain-dont-work-what-did-i-do-wrong/#findComment-16535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillBrowne Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 What types of files are you using (mp3, m4a, flac ...)?A rescan isn't necessary as far as I know, Poweramp uses the values it finds when it starts playing the track. Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/4313-some-files-replaygain-dont-work-what-did-i-do-wrong/#findComment-16543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
casinero.triste Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 The four higher-volume files are mp3.Others are mp3, m4a, and also an ape and an flac. Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/4313-some-files-replaygain-dont-work-what-did-i-do-wrong/#findComment-16550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillBrowne Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Right, let's find out what's going on.First, select one of your mp3 tracks without replay gain tags in it - make sure it doesn't have itunes tags in it either as these can be used by Poweramp too.Make a copy of the file. Name one WithGain.mp3 and one NoGain.mp3Apply Replay Gain using Foobar to WithGain.mp3Under Replay Gain settings in Poweramp set RG preamp to 0 (near enough will do). Set Preamp for songs without RG to its lowest setting.Put both tracks on your phone and rescan.Make sure Apply Gain is set and Source is TrackPlay both tracks one after another - do you hear any difference in loudness between the two? Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/4313-some-files-replaygain-dont-work-what-did-i-do-wrong/#findComment-16551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
casinero.triste Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 No, no difference between these two as I can tell.And with this setting (Preamp for songs without RG changed from 0dB to -16dB, which is the only difference from my original settings), the four files which sounded much louder now sound slightly lower than other files. I might live with this, at least they're not piercing now. Still don't know if this is the way things should work though. Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/4313-some-files-replaygain-dont-work-what-did-i-do-wrong/#findComment-16565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillBrowne Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Right, from this we know that Poweramp is definitely not reading the tags on that file as it is attenuating the files it thinks have no tags.Is there any way you can put one of the files you have added tags to somewhere so I can have a look at it? Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/4313-some-files-replaygain-dont-work-what-did-i-do-wrong/#findComment-16572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
casinero.triste Posted January 18, 2013 Author Share Posted January 18, 2013 https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9Dqy1JKdfj8RDZlN0xNQ1AzZ2c/edithttps://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9Dqy1JKdfj8V04tY0ZuX3ZMTEk/edit"Geek In The Pink" is one of the four files I feel particularly loud.Other files sound like "Danza Kuduro". Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/4313-some-files-replaygain-dont-work-what-did-i-do-wrong/#findComment-16586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillBrowne Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Right, I see now -The "Geek In The Pink" track uses APE tags whereas the other uses id3.It looks like Poweramp does not recognise the APE tags, these are a very old "standard" - so is not applying replaygain to these files.In fact, when I looked at the tags of the files under mp3tag I could not see the replaygain as it does not like APE tags either.I had a quick look at how to fix this but could not find anything obvious to convert the tags - but now you know why so I'm sure you can find a solution. Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/4313-some-files-replaygain-dont-work-what-did-i-do-wrong/#findComment-16596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
casinero.triste Posted January 19, 2013 Author Share Posted January 19, 2013 It seems foobar2000 can easily change tag type.Really thanks for your help! Link to comment https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/4313-some-files-replaygain-dont-work-what-did-i-do-wrong/#findComment-16600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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