jgbrown54 Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 I have Poweramp installed on a Set Top Media player connected directly to the ethernet, instead of being connected wirelessly, with a 4GB SD and 2 TB HDD with around 26,000 songs in 1,400 folders. This causes some interresting issues.Scanning time is excessive. I have to deal with timeout errors (Force Stop, Wait). I guess it,s not surprising. That is a lot of songs.The standard remote only has Up, Down, Left, Right, Play/Pause, Skip Forward, Skip Back, Next Song, Previous Song, Back, Home, and some numbers. That is enough to play but it is difficult to navigate some area os the screen. I also have a Blue Tooth keyboard with a TouchPad. The Touchpad allows me to do most things on the screen similar to touching the screen.A major issue is that the manufacturer disabled access to the Menu button in the top right corner of the screen. And there is no button to emulate it on the keyboard. So I can not access the option screens. Therefore I can not set it to look for album art when it's not connected to WiFi. Along with other options I might want to change if I could.Since there so many folders, each a separate album, the folder list is difficult to use without having any defined tree structure. For example, with a tree structure, I could find the album I want by going to /Music/Grateful Dead/Jerry Garcia/Reflections and play all the songs in that folder for the Reflections Album by Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead. Logical. Looking for an album in the album list named Reflections causes me to have to scroll down approximately 800 albums to find it. Normally when I'm looking for something to play, I would decide that I want to listen to The Grateful Dead, navigate to that folder, and then pick the album I want to hear. Anyone who has a large music collection will have them sorted (whether they are records, CDs, cassettes, or whatever, would usually have them sorted by artist, then by album name. Granted there is an artist list but, as an example, my Grateful Dead folder also contains The Grateful Dead. The Dead, Further, Bobby and The Midnights, Jerry Garcia, Bob Weir, Kingfish, Rat Dog, Merl Saunders and Jerry Garcia, ........ all considered as Grateful Dead depending on who is playing on the album. Similarily you may want a group such as Jefferson Airplane, Jefferson Starship, Gace Slick and the Great Society, Jorma Kaukonan, ...........Based on the above issues (not necessarily bugs) and the flood of Android Set Top Media players coming out of China, I would recomend the following changes:Scanning for a list of albums and playlists and folders should be done in the background. Currently it seems to be creating the lists when they are needed and then having to sort them alphabetically. There should be a scanner that runs in the background and creates the list and sorts it. Then when the list is needed, it will already exist and scanning and sorting is not required. It would only need to be displayed.There needs to be another way to access the options other than clicking on the menu button.There should be a way to navigate through the folder tree, other than just a list of folders, and tell it to play all songs in that specific folder and/or all songs in subfolders of the selected folder. The is a good little app called FolderPlayer that does this but is lacking all the great features of Poweramp. For example, I could select the folder /Music/Grateful Dead and have retrieve all 2,351 songs that are in the 120 sub folders, shuffle them, and play them. No Play List required.A Play List should be able to be opened in a file browser by launching Poweramp. In an attempt to come up with something similar to number 3 above. I created a playlist containing all 2.351 Grateful Dead songs using an external app. If I use a file browser to open the playlist, it gives me the option of opening it with Poweramp. However, Poweramp gives and error saying it can't play that type of file. If I wait long enough for the scanner to run, the playlist will eventually, but not immediately, show up in the Library under Play Lists. Then I can play it. Shouldn't Poweramp be smart enough to know that it was opened and passed a PlayList file to play?Ok. Enough of the issues. Right now my immediate need is a way to access the options. Is there an XML file or something that can be opened and edited to change the options? If so, where can I find it and can it be edited without rooting my device? Or is there any way to access the options without clicking on the Menu button which I don't have?As more and more Android Set Top media players become available, someone needs to create apps that work with them and allow simple navigation for users. What are your thoughts? Waht issues do you see that should be addressed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmp Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Thanks for such a write-up. Can you specify the exact topset model? I was reading some reviews about similar things based on ARM cpus (Poweramp can run on ARM currently, but it can be ported to x86 as well).Also note that Poweramp scanning process is purely background service with a separate thread. I wonder why ANRs are happening, this require such device at hands. I can guess this is some interthread locking, but again, without device it's hard to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgbrown54 Posted February 10, 2012 Author Share Posted February 10, 2012 It is a generic Chinese Set Top box with an ARMv7 CPU with VFP runing at 1.5 GHZ. The box it came in is marked for Amlogic, Samsung, and Rockchip but it is none of these. It is running Android 2.3.4.The first delay I experience is when I first start Poweramp. It comes up with the logo and "Initialization/folders scan...". It takes 12 minutes for this scan to complete and there is no way to cancel it. I do not get the timeout errors during this process. I must wait for it to complete before I can exit or do anything else on the device.After initialization, if I try to go into the Library or folder list, I will get the timeout errors. The exact messages are "Application Poweramp (in process com.maxmpz.audioplayer) is not responding." and "Activity Poweramp (in application Poweramp) is not responding.". If I am patient and keep clicking on Wait, It will eventually go to the library. It was particularily bad when I had a PlayList loaded with 2,351 songs in the playlist or too the . What can I say. Poweramp works great on my tablet. But it has issues with a large file system. I always was one to push the limits. So I have Android running on a 72 inch HD screen at 1080P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgbrown54 Posted February 10, 2012 Author Share Posted February 10, 2012 Additional: After all the timeouts and everything has been scanned, I can navigate wherever I want with no timeouts.New issue: I haven't been able to get the Android Marlet to run yet. The device didn't come with it and the versions that I have been able to find crash on my device. Now it can't verify the Poweramp license. I'll have check why it can't use APM.Additional: After the above issue with licenseing, I was about to request support and started having some issues with the BT Keyboard. Not related to Poweramp. I rebooted to fix that, and Poweramp was not displayed in my Application selectgion screen any more. I went to reinstall it, and it said it was already installed. If so, then where did it go? So I uninstalled and reinstalled. Everything is ok so far. When I get the verify message again, hopefully the Keyboard will be working so I can send a request to support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgbrown54 Posted February 10, 2012 Author Share Posted February 10, 2012 I found a post today about how to set an option to provide a hierachical folder view. Of course I can't set that because I can't access the Options menu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgbrown54 Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 Finally some good news. Being agravated that I did not have the Android Market, I did some searching on the internet. The board that is used in my box is an MBX DVBT reference board (c03ref).I actually found a group dedicated to this board. It is used in several Set Top Media players. I found one that talked about not having the Android Market and it referenced an update from SendSpace.com. I took a chance and tried it. The results started off looking promising but......After the upgrade, my IR remote would no longer work. Ok. So I have a Bluetooth Keyboard. I don't need the remote. Unfortunately, the update also did not support Bluetooth.. In the same post, it referenced an update from Geniatech. They have a unit that also uses the board. Unfortunately, the download was no longer available but there was a new one for the unit that had that board. They apparently put a check in the upgrade to check the bord and make sure it was one of theirs so the upgrade failed. Now I was getting desperate. Since it says on the box that it came in that it was either an Amilogic or a Samsung or a Rockchip, I decided to check the sites for those. Samsung does show that they have a Set Top Box. Rockchip has one but they didn't have any upgrades to download. Amlogic had several. One was for a different CPU and also was only Android 2.2. Their latest model appeared to be the same and they had an update for it. I downloaded it and it worked......mostly. When it first came up, everything was in Chinese. My remote still didn't work. At least not right. The key mappings are off so it had a couple of functions that work by pressing a different key than what it said. I just happened to have a USB keyboard and it worked. So I was able to finish the setup using it. Bluetooth also worked so now I have a remote. Oh. It also had the Android Market and it works. I also found that after installing Poweramp, all of my timeout issues went away. Yeah! The remote still doesn't work but I can live with that. I also have a remote code generator that I can use to identify the IR key codes needed to program the codes into a programable remote. It's a little time consuming but oh well.I suppose I could contact Amlogic and tell them I have their model A10 and that I lost my remote and see if I can buy one.I still have the issue of not having a Menu key. That is something that Poweramp should address for Android 2.3.4 and Android 3.0. Neither of which provides a soft Menu key. I might be able to find an IR key code that will work. I won't know until I try. And without the unit being rooted, I can not modify the .KL files so I still will not have a way to get to the Menu with the Bluetooth keyboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgbrown54 Posted February 13, 2012 Author Share Posted February 13, 2012 Woo Hoo!I found out today, quite by accident, that the center mouse button, taping with 2 fingers on my Bluetooth touch pad, calls up the Action Menu. Then by clicking on More I can access the settings. This allows me to set things the way I want/need them. Luckily I have the Bluetooth keyboard with a touch pad. Poweramp should still add a way for users of Set Top media players that only have a remote to access the Menu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgbrown54 Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 So the only issue I have now, other than an occasional timeout when entering the library or folders due to the large number of files, is that I haven't found a way to select the album art. This is normally done by doing a long touch on the album art display area on the main screen. It turns out that on a Bluetooth mouse, at least on mine, a long mouse click is not quite the same as a long touch on the screen. Therefore I can not do a long touch on the album art area. Maybe a selection should be added to the Action Menu for the main screen or if there was a way to select the album art area and do a long enter key. Note that a long enter key works for every place else that needs a long touch as long as the area can be selected with the up/down/left/right arrow keys. As far as the timeouts, patients is a virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgbrown54 Posted February 20, 2012 Author Share Posted February 20, 2012 My last issue was.......no way to select album art from the main screen using a Bluetooth keyboard with a touchpad mouse. I found today, again by acident, that a long touch can be done by clicking the left mouse button as a long press and then overlapping the enter key. That is a left mouse down count to 2 and while the left mouse is down, press the enter and release it. Then release left mouse button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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