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Audio duck feature is buggy PA 905 UNI. whether turned on or off, if turned off it simply pause then resume after incoming notification which is okay. the problem is it doesn't lower the volume to distinguish notification coming specifically from messages instead it rocks along with music. ūü§üūüŹĽ

override by audio output is toggled off.

build 903 and earlier probably doesn't have this bug.

p.s sometimes it works but mostly not. when working ducking volume is not considerable to distinguish incoming notification sound. volume duck threshold is slightly higher.

screenshot attached for reference setting.

 

PA: 905 uni

Firmware: 9.0 not rooted/Asus 5z

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1 hour ago, redlith said:

a bit frustrating because audio duck volume doesn't work correctly. this release has many bugs to be bust

I've not noticed any significant differences in build 905 compared to previous builds as far as volume ducking for notifications goes. Are you use you haven't adjusted any of your output modes in the meantime?

Andre

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4 hours ago, andrewilley said:

I've not noticed any significant differences in build 905 compared to previous builds as far as volume ducking for notifications goes. Are you use you haven't adjusted any of your output modes in the meantime?

Andre

no, just default values for output modes.  this occurs in wired headset and Bluetooth connection. sometimes its working but audio duck is not good, it Lowers the volume but not significantly prioritizing the notification sound and somehow can't distinguishable and there are times that its not working-just no ducking effect.

 

i tried fresh installation as of now, which is 905 play version and no good too.

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3 hours ago, redlith said:

i tried fresh installation as of now, which is 905 play version and no good too.

As you this issue only happened in the latest build, could you try a fresh install of (for example, as you mentioned it elsewhere) build 903 to confirm that?

[Edit] Just noticed that the Downloads section is missing many of the interim builds, the available files go straight from 893 to 905, not sure why. I'll append 903 to this post.

Andre

 

Poweramp-build-903-uni.apk

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1 hour ago, andrewilley said:

 

As you this issue only happened in the latest build, could you try a fresh install of (for example, as you mentioned it elsewhere) build 903 to confirm that?

[Edit] Just noticed that the Downloads section is missing many of the interim builds, the available files go straight from 893 to 905, not sure why. I'll append 903 to this post.

Andre

 

Poweramp-build-903-uni.apk 10.49 MB · 0 downloads

okay i'll give it a shot

 

edit: as 903 uni. duck volume performs well. notification sound is pretty noticeable.

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3 hours ago, andrewilley said:

 

As you this issue only happened in the latest build, could you try a fresh install of (for example, as you mentioned it elsewhere) build 903 to confirm that?

[Edit] Just noticed that the Downloads section is missing many of the interim builds, the available files go straight from 893 to 905, not sure why. I'll append 903 to this post.

Andre

 

Poweramp-build-903-uni.apk 10.49 MB · 1 download

could you please investigate why is it happening? heres my settings

7-2-21-07-06.poweramp-settings

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3 hours ago, andrewilley said:

 

As you this issue only happened in the latest build, could you try a fresh install of (for example, as you mentioned it elsewhere) build 903 to confirm that?

[Edit] Just noticed that the Downloads section is missing many of the interim builds, the available files go straight from 893 to 905, not sure why. I'll append 903 to this post.

Andre

 

Poweramp-build-903-uni.apk 10.49 MB · 1 download

okay heres my final verdict, duck volume mess with equalizer, and AAudio output but not with tones,stereo,limit,tempo and in terms of audio output, opensl and audiotrack outputs suits when equalizer is off.

 

real culprit is DVC.

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29 minutes ago, redlith said:

could you please investigate why is it happening?

I just did some tests with internal speaker and bluetooth headphones and it works fine - volume dips in order to play the notification sound. Obviously the comparative levels depends on what level you are listening to music at vs. your chosen notification volume.

However the same tests with a wired headset did seem incorrect. The notification sound did not play at all and the music volume did not dip - the only indicator that the notification had occurred was the phone's vibration effect. I tried several output methods (OpenSL ES, Hi-Res, and AAudio) and got the same result each time, with the EQ on or off. Could be related to the odd way Samsung routes notification sounds when using a wired headset (it can send the tones to the internal speaker, although it did not in this case).

Andre

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3 minutes ago, redlith said:

i tried to toggled off the DVC. everything works fine

Turning DVC off did not make any difference for me (although I can see why it could do). It still works with speaker & Bluetooth, but not with wired headset.

Could you check that you still see the same results with build 903 as before, in case your settings were different when you did that test.

Andre

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10 minutes ago, andrewilley said:

I just did some tests with internal speaker and bluetooth headphones and it works fine - volume dips in order to play the notification sound. Obviously the comparative levels depends on what level you are listening to music at vs. your chosen notification volume.

However the same tests with a wired headset did seem incorrect. The notification sound did not play at all and the music volume did not dip - the only indicator that the notification had occurred was the phone's vibration effect. I tried several output methods (OpenSL ES, Hi-Res, and AAudio) and got the same result each time, with the EQ on or off. Could be related to the odd way Samsung routes notification sounds when using a wired headset (it can send the tones to the internal speaker, although it did not in this case).

Andre

i'm agree vibration is the only indicator that notifications arrive however in my case it plays but volume does not dip.

opensl es, audiotrack-volume ducking is fine when dvc is off.

hi res- dvc on/off, volumes ducks.

aaudio- whether dvc ,equ,tones,limit are off. volume does not duck

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5 minutes ago, andrewilley said:

Turning DVC off did not make any difference for me (although I can see why it could do). It still works with speaker & Bluetooth, but not with wired headset.

Could you check that you still see the same results with build 903 as before, in case your settings were different when you did that test.

Andre

i'll try to reproduce this in 903.

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15 minutes ago, andrewilley said:

Turning DVC off did not make any difference for me (although I can see why it could do). It still works with speaker & Bluetooth, but not with wired headset.

Could you check that you still see the same results with build 903 as before, in case your settings were different when you did that test.

Andre

at PA903, after playing the settings with dvc, equ, and outputs. results are the same.

aaudio ouput does not lower the volume even dvc,equ are off.

openes sl and audiotrack are okay even dvc is on(there's a slight difference on volume ducking if it is off) bottomline it works fine.

haven't tried on Bluetooth.

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1 hour ago, redlith said:

at PA903, after playing the settings with dvc, equ, and outputs. results are the same.

So to clarify, this does not appear to be an issue that only occurred with Poweramp build 905 and it occurs with earlier builds too, and so it could be related to other system changes such as Android updates etc.

Ironically, while I was out walking at lunchtime and listening to a podcast on my wired headphones, I received a notification - and that time, both the audio ducking and the notification sound occurred correctly.

Andre

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9 hours ago, andrewilley said:

So to clarify, this does not appear to be an issue that only occurred with Poweramp build 905 and it occurs with earlier builds too, and so it could be related to other system changes such as Android updates etc.

Ironically, while I was out walking at lunchtime and listening to a podcast on my wired headphones, I received a notification - and that time, both the audio ducking and the notification sound occurred correctly.

Andre

still not correct in my case. my work around is disable dvc for wired headset.

i qoute "it's ūĚöôūĚöõūĚöėūĚöčūĚöäūĚöčūĚöēūĚöĘ working fine in 903". I can't remember what version is working fine at any setting but theres one.

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12 hours ago, andrewilley said:

Turning DVC off did not make any difference for me (although I can see why it could do). It still works with speaker & Bluetooth, but not with wired headset.

Could you check that you still see the same results with build 903 as before, in case your settings were different when you did that test.

Andre

it works on Bluetooth flawlessly even dvc is on and  audio ducking is pretty audible. tested yesterday.

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I've moved this from the 905-specific thread as it does not seem to be related to that build.

It sounds like your experience is about the same as I see. Volume ducking works correctly with Bluetooth (and, for me at least, on internal speakers) but not with wired headset. For me, DVC doesn't make any difference, but as it does on your device I would suggest you turn it off for your chosen Wired Headset/AUX output method.

Andre

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  • 2 weeks later...

I remember that in previous versions I could record a video and the music came out perfectly, now in Android 11 I can't. I don't know what happened to the audio focus I liked to do that

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@Raffy Sorry, not sure what video recording with your phone's camera has to do with Poweramp? The audio should be coming from the phone's microphone, not a music player.

If you mean that you want PA to continue playing music via the speaker when you start to record a video, you need to turn off Settings > Audio > Audio Focus > Short Audio Focus Change / Calls.

Andre

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@andrewilley with the speaker phone it does, with Bluetooth and wired headsets it no longer does. I don't know if it's for Android 11 but before I did, I was thinking of installing an older version of PA Let's see if i get it. sorry for my english is google translate

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