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Hello Poweramp users,

This is my first post and hopefully you can help me with this.  In my current set up in the living room I stream my flac files from my Huwei P30Pro phone to a Chromecast Audio witch goes to a external DAC . That signal goes to my amplifier/speakers .It works like a charm, no complaining at all. I activate the chromecast audio in Poweramp and my vintage audio set will do the rest. Nothing to complain. With Hi-Res  headphones Poweramp is also unbeatable. 

I wanna purchase some wifi speakers with chromecast integrated for my bedroom. It will be Sonos One or Harmen & Kardon Citation One or Citation 100 speakers. To much to choose from these days....😁. My question is if Poweramp will detect this chromecast compliant speakers so I can cast my music ? I know that I can mirrorcast my phone by using the Google Home app but the sound of the casting option in Poweramp gives me a better, fuller sound in my opinion. And maybe , hopefully, I can use the very good eq in Poweramp too to alter the sound even further because the Harmon & Kardon speakers don't give you that option in the Google Home app. They advertise it should be possible but it isn't....lots of people are complaining about that. The Harman & Kardon speakers a very bass heavy so if I could alter that bass that would be perfect. Thanks in advance.

 

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Thanks Andre. I didn't knew that. The Sonos One will be no option then... I didn't like their sound characteristic in comparison to the Harmon & Kardon speakers. The Citation One sounds a lot more mature but it has overpowering bass levels in my humble opinion. The intergation of Chromecast in the Citation It should make it work on paper with Poweramp but I'm not sure.... Are there any wifi speakers with Chromecast Integration that are proven to work with Poweramp? 

 

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Streaming Poweramp audio via chromecast onto Harman Kardon Citation 500 and 300 works at my place - even though with constant interruptions for unknown reasons (wifi network?, unstable wifi connection of my Huawei p9?, Poweramp?)

If you don't have problems streaming to your DAC it should probably work.

Regards 

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@GeilerHeinz , thanks for the info. I decided to take no risk and I purchased a second Chromecast audio on the Second hand market. I will connect the chromecast to a set of powered monitor speakers. I think they sound way better then what's on the market right now according wifi speakers. Maybe combine it with a google home nest and then it's as smart as a dedicated wifi speaker. 

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Hi Bahady, I don't suppose you've had any issues with PA casting to Chromecast Audio, have you?

I've just started using PA, having used other android music players with native CCA support (Pulsar, BubbleUpNp, Astiga, ...), but with PA the playback just stops, ~30 seconds after starting to cast. Every time.  If I then hit play, playback starts on the local device, as if it's dropped the CCA connection.

PA is playing in the foreground the whole time.  I've tried a phone and a tablet, and three different Chromecasts, all the same.

Strange thing is that if I mirrorcast the PA playback using Google Home instead, this keeps playing, no problem.

Thanks

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4 minutes ago, Niggle said:

I've just started using PA, having used other android music players with native CCA support (Pulsar, BubbleUpNp, Astiga, ...), but with PA the playback just stops, ~30 seconds after starting to cast. Every time.

What Chromecast version are you using? While listening during that 30 seconds, long-press on the metadata line and scroll down the info displayed until you see the output device.

Andre

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17 minutes ago, Niggle said:

I've tried three Chromecast Audios, cast firmware 1.23.85114.  Which is presumably the latest, since they're always online.

In previous cases where this has happened, it was caused by an older Chrome version within the Chromecast receiver firmware (I was running 62.x.xx.xx on my Onkyo amp, and that caused the same 30-seconds-then-fail issue). Could you post a screenshot of your Output Device info in PA, which should look something like this which is from my ancient early-release Chomecast dongle:

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Andre

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According to support.google.com ...

Current production firmware version 
Chromecast Audio — Firmware version 1.42.172094

Current Preview Program firmware version
Chromecast Audio — Firmware version 1.44.185164

I have no idea why mine haven't updated from 1.23.85114, but I guess this is the issue.

Thanks,
Nigel

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Had production and preview versions reversed
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Andre, thanks.  I've factory reset all the CCAs, and that seems to have forced them to migrate to latest FW and Chrome.

And now it doesn't stop after 30 seconds, but I am getting bad stuttering.  By which I mean that the audio momentarily goes silent and I think the playback jumps back a little (50ms to 200ms approx.), every 10 or 20 seconds or so.

Progress of a sort 😉

Thanks, Nigel

 

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I found one buffer size setting, which was on the 1500ms default.  I increased this to 3000ms and this is definitely helping.

Any downsides to whacking it all the way to 4000ms?  What's the issue here?  Is the phone/tablet buffer under-running?  Does it depend on the speed of the android device?

Thanks so much,

Nigel

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