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Ignore articles like “A” and “The” in the All Songs list sorted by Title

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It would be really great to ignore articles like “A” and “The” in the All Songs list when it is sorted by Title. This was the reason I bought Poweramp in the first place since this was implement for Artists and Albums. 

I have 5,000 songs and they contain 58 "A" and 326 "The" in the All Songs list.

I really love Poweramp and hope this can be done... Thank you for your consideration!

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Hi Andre, Thanks! I agree that it wouldn't make sense in folders/filenames. Does this mean my request will be considered for an addition to PA? I'm new to PA and do not know how requests work... Thanks!

 

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On 9/10/2019 at 1:08 AM, andrewilley said:

I'm not the dev, you need to persuade @maxmp that it's worth his time doing. But it does seem a pretty obvious place for that option to Ignore Articles to be applied IMHO.

Andre

Hi Andre,

How is that accomplished?

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3 hours ago, Robert H2 said:

How is that accomplished?

PA is solely Max's project so it's up to him what features he decides to add. The more people who ask for something in these Feature Request forums though, the more likely it would be that he'd plan to do it. It has been mentioned before, but not exactly with a high priority.

Andre

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Any update on this from @maxmp? I have been using Poweramp (Full) for a couple years now, and this would be such a big quality-of-life improvement. I actually finally made a forum account just to hop in on this topic. 

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I agree that this is a feature that would be great.  I'm in the process of playlisting 2000+ songs and bouncing back and forth because of sort order differences is frustrating and time consuming.

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@maxmp Any thoughts on this? It would seem very a useful and sensible thing to extend the use of the current article-ignoring sort algorithm to incorporate Title sorting as well as the existing Album/Artist/Composer/etc sorting modes.

While you are in there, might I suggest that leading bracketed portions of song names could be similarly ignored for sorting purposes, as technically correct song titles such as "(Feels Like) Heaven" and "(I've Had) The Time of My Life" and "(There's) Always Something There to Remind Me" should presumably be sorted under 'Heaven', 'Time', and 'Always' - or at the very least the leading bracket should be ignored so they don't all appear right at the start of the list, before even numeric-digit titles.

None of the above should apply to path/filename sorting though, that should remain as simple ASCII.

Andre

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6 hours ago, andrewilley said:

@maxmp Any thoughts on this? It would seem very a useful and sensible thing to extend the use of the current article-ignoring sort algorithm to incorporate Title sorting as well as the existing Album/Artist/Composer/etc sorting modes.

While you are in there, might I suggest that leading bracketed portions of song names could be similarly ignored for sorting purposes, as technically correct song titles such as "(Feels Like) Heaven" and "(I've Had) The Time of My Life" and "(There's) Always Something There to Remind Me" should presumably be sorted under 'Heaven', 'Time', and 'Always' - or at the very least the leading bracket should be ignored so they don't all appear right at the start of the list, before even numeric-digit titles.

None of the above should apply to path/filename sorting though, that should remain as simple ASCII.

Andre

This is something easily done by using the sort tags as well, as that is specifically their purpose. Keep the standard tag as is, sorted by any means you desire. Useful for track, artist, album artist, album, and composer tags.😁

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There are lots of newer tags that have started to be supported on some platforms and some tagging formats over the past few years - such as ID3 tags like TSOT (Title sort order), TSOA (Album sort order) and TSOP (Performer sort order). If they are present (and at present they are not that common, I don't have a single one in my entire library for example) they could indeed be useful in this case scenario, and also in cases where the original content wording is in non-Latin encoding, and is thus harder to sort using the traditional fields.

I don't know if Max has any plans to read these new tags into PA's library, but it would certainly resolve issues like this one.   

Andre

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