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Any idea why volume normalization has been a requested item for some time, yet has never been implemented? Drives me crazy that I hit one song I can barely hear then the next one blows my eardrums out. Have tried MediaMonkeys Volume Leveling but doesn't seem to have any effect. Wondering if the app is missing something that doesn't allow for it too work properly or what? But for sure it really would be nice to see a normalization option.

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2 hours ago, MortTheBeast said:

Any idea why volume normalization has been a requested item for some time, yet has never been implemented? Drives me crazy that I hit one song I can barely hear then the next one blows my eardrums out. Have tried MediaMonkeys Volume Leveling but doesn't seem to have any effect. Wondering if the app is missing something that doesn't allow for it too work properly or what? But for sure it really would be nice to see a normalization option.

@andrewilley responded to the historic request for nomalization :

In his answer he described how aspects of this "normalization" are already implemented by "Replay Gain", and how other aspects would amount to Dynamic Compression. For Dynamic Compression there is a feature request - perhaps that's what you want ? If so, you can support it.

 

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+1 

I suppose its dynamic compression. Look at AIMP for PC. It has very efective play volume leveling. Its called "peak normalisation".

you set a target value for the the level and the upper threshhold gain  and the lower threshhold gain and it works on the playing sound. It also shows the applied gain as it varies so you can see how its reacting. 

they have also added a new thing in version 6 beta thats in addittion called replay gain normalisation which i have not used yet.

 

However the peak normalisation seems to be very good for me and general listening levels

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I understand what has been said about on-the-fly normalization. But is it so difficult to simply not do it on the fly, but do it on the whole track once it starts playing? Or why not do it while a previous track is playing the last seconds (kind of "looking ahead")?

Or how about a menu item to create the replay gain tags from within Poweramp?

The reason why I'm asking, is simply that I do not only have mp3s. There are aac (do not support Rg at all), ogg (maybe Poweramp can't read their rg tags), and others.

Getting rg into all the files in a way that Poweramp is safe to use it correctly is a heck of a hassle. I never fully succeeded. It would be so much better if Poweramp could do all this stuff on it's own!

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59 minutes ago, ako673de said:

It would be so much better if Poweramp could do all this stuff on it's own! 

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I have been using MP3 Gain since around 2004 or so.   Works great and the songs will be normalized no matter which player you use.   It just changes the tag adding the normalization values and doesn't alter the sound portion of the file so no sound quality is lost.  

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40 minutes ago, hypomaniac-eric said:

I have been using MP3 Gain since around 2004 or so.   Works great and the songs will be normalized no matter which player you use.   It just changes the tag adding the normalization values and doesn't alter the sound portion of the file so no sound quality is lost.  

Yes, but works only with mp3s. That's no more than 5% of MY collection... 

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35 minutes ago, ako673de said:

Yes, but works only with mp3s. That's no more than 5% of MY collection... 

why do you say that?  I use it for AAC's too with the AAC add on to the program.   Is that what you use?

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11 hours ago, hypomaniac-eric said:

I have been using MP3 Gain since around 2004 or so.   Works great and the songs will be normalized no matter which player you use.   It just changes the tag adding the normalization values and doesn't alter the sound portion of the file so no sound quality is lost.  

I been using it for many years too and it works more than replaygain does. There is aacgain too.

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Confusing... as far as I was aware, the Volume Leveling done in MediaMonkey Gold should carry over... yet the volumes seem wildly different in a lot of the files. So I should try using MP3 Gain and should see better results?

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I am now kind of inspired. Last time I tried is years ago. At that time the results were very disappointing. I will start off with foobar2000, which is an android app. It says it allows setting the Rg for all files. We will see. I will keep you updated on my findings... 

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On 2/20/2019 at 2:12 AM, MortTheBeast said:

Confusing... as far as I was aware, the Volume Leveling done in MediaMonkey Gold should carry over... yet the volumes seem wildly different in a lot of the files. So I should try using MP3 Gain and should see better results?

You could try MP3 Gain.   that is compatible with all players.   But sometimes some spikes or peaks in the volume will throw off the Volume Leveler or MP3 Gain.   When that happens you have to switch to constant gain for that song or songs instead of by album or song.   I have had that issue where some songs are too quiet or loud like that.   

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