hari4698 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 The song that is actually playing is Alltta, but the now playing bar is showing a different song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaubär Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, hari4698 said: The song that is actually playing is Alltta, but the now playing bar is showing a different song. It's dark and difficult to read - it seems the title of the song on the miniplayer begins with a special character ' " or so. There are several bug reports where song titles that begin with special characters cause synchronization problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hari4698 Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, blaubär said: It's dark and difficult to read - it seems the title of the song on the miniplayer begins with a special character ' " or so. There are several bug reports where song titles that begin with special characters cause synchronization problems. Sorry that it is dark. That was the only way to show the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewilley Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Have you tried the suggestion of temporarily removing the non-alphanumeric characters from the start of the song title? Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countmattula Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 This error happens to me no matter what characters are in the song title. Basically the bar at the bottom always displays some random song. Even if I go back to the main menu, the bar at the bottom shows some random song as opposed to what is currently playing. Also curious, is there a way to remove this "now playing" / "last played" bar altogether as an option? UPDATE: I did notice that if I back out of the app entirely (while music is playing) the error corrects itself, but that doesn't change the fact that the bug still exists.. so hopefully that information helps Google Pixel Poweramp v3 build 820 Android 9.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaubär Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 hour ago, countmattula said: This error happens to me no matter what characters are in the song title. Can you provide an example without a special character ? The screenshot shows a song in the miniplayer that begins with a ' : 'cross the breeze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countmattula Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Ahh I see what you are saying about 'cross the breeze.. yes there is a special character for that song and maybe I misunderstood where you were going with that comment.. but that still doesn't explain why that song was even showing as in the Mini Player window when that was not the song I was playing at the time What you are essentially suggesting to me is that there can be no songs in your entire Music folder with special characters in their titles, regardless of what song you are currently playing. Correct? Here is the problem. I could go through all my music and change the tags, but then the titles would not be accurate. And no other media player I use seems to have an issue with these special characters. For example, 'Cross the Breeze is supposed to have that special character (see the attached image). I also have songs with titles like <ignore the quoatations> "(HOPE) Is Just Another Word With A Hole in it" and so forth.. so the point I am trying to make is something should be done to fix the issue because if you want to maintain an accurate music library, you want it to match the original source titles as much as possible... not make an acception because one media player has an issue with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaubär Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, countmattula said: What you are essentially suggesting to me is that there can be no songs in your entire Music folder with special characters in their titles, regardless of what song you are currently playing. Correct? Yes, there might be a bug that prevents Poweramp from handling these files correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaubär Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, countmattula said: Here is the problem. I could go through all my music and change the tags, but then the titles would not be accurate. And no other media player I use seems to have an issue with these special characters. For example, 'Cross the Breeze is supposed to have that special character (see the attached image). I also have songs with titles like <ignore the quoatations> "(HOPE) Is Just Another Word With A Hole in it" and so forth.. so the point I am trying to make is something should be done to fix the issue because if you want to maintain an accurate music library, you want it to match the original source titles as much as possible... not make an acception because one media player has an issue with it. Agreed ! I don't want you to destroy your metadata ! It might be helpful to verify my hypothesis about this bug if we could find somebody whose Poweramp installation shows this strange behaviour and who could and would change the tags for testing purposes. Preferably somebody with only a few strange songs 😀. Then it would be easier for the developer to analyse the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premin Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Having the same problem.it appear to be with all songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewilley Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 22 minutes ago, Premin said: Having the same problem.it appear to be with all songs. As most of your songs start with non-alphanumeric characters, I can see this will be a bit of an issue for you until Max tracks is one down... Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hari4698 Posted January 31, 2019 Author Share Posted January 31, 2019 6 hours ago, countmattula said: This error happens to me no matter what characters are in the song title. Basically the bar at the bottom always displays some random song. Even if I go back to the main menu, the bar at the bottom shows some random song as opposed to what is currently playing. Also curious, is there a way to remove this "now playing" / "last played" bar altogether as an option? UPDATE: I did notice that if I back out of the app entirely (while music is playing) the error corrects itself, but that doesn't change the fact that the bug still exists.. so hopefully that information helps Google Pixel Poweramp v3 build 820 Android 9.0 Yes! When I come out of the app and come back in, the mini player in the displaying the correct title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainytears Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 4 hours ago, andrewilley said: As most of your songs start with non-alphanumeric characters, I can see this will be a bit of an issue for you until Max tracks is one down... Andre You mentioned that 'NON-alphanumeric' characters so I make fill my library with ALL-alphanumeric songs without any NON-alphanumeric characters all over the list. But still the problem happens. I swear there is NO non-alphanumeric characters in whole song names, and even in whole album and artist names, only pure English characters exist. I can prove it if you want. Even there is no Arabic numerals / numbers (1, 2, 3 .... 0) on whole list. Still the bug exists. 'Blackout' is #2 song from all song list and what I play is #2 song from that album. When I move the track, the sequence follows. Still the same problem. So this is a bug regardless of the type of characters you should admit. Plus, it is quite absurd, unfair and illogical to suggest that non-alphanumeric characters should be removed altogether to fix the problem. That's not the way to fix. There are countless non-alphanumeric characters on the name of the songs in the world and users' playlist and we can't edit every single title w/o that and ofc I really don't want to spoil the original title which has its own meaning. So I beg you or anyone who is responsible to notice and fix this problem. 8 hours ago, blaubär said: Can you provide an example without a special character ? The screenshot shows a song in the miniplayer that begins with a ' : 'cross the breeze Here is the example without a special character you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaubär Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Rainytears said: Plus, it is quite absurd, unfair and illogical to suggest that non-alphanumeric characters should be removed altogether to fix the problem. That's not the way to fix. There are countless non-alphanumeric characters on the name of the songs in the world and users' playlist and we can't edit every single title w/o that and ofc I really don't want to spoil the original title which has its own meaning. This is not about fixing the problem, but finding its root cause. If you've got a better idea, go ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainytears Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 37 minutes ago, blaubär said: This is not about fixing the problem, but finding its root cause. If you've got a better idea, go ahead. Yes and I found alphanumeric matter is not its root which is what you want someone else to do. What else I can do? Tell me another condition or option to try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaubär Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Rainytears said: Yes and I found alphanumeric matter is not its root which is what you want someone else to do. What else I can do? Tell me another condition or option to try. Thank You ! That was a good thing to do. What can you do ? Unfortunately I've no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaubär Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 21 minutes ago, Rainytears said: What else I can do? Tell me another condition or option to try. Okay, another idea : if it's not the special characters as such that cause this behaviour, then perhaps it's a sorting that puts the specials characters at the beginning or the end, and the bug is that Poweramp takes the first / last song in the list rather than the correct one, and then it shows the ones witch the special characters, because they are at the beginning or end ? So everybody who is affected by this : could you play around with list options and sorting ? And see if this influences the behaviour ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaubär Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 3 hours ago, Rainytears said: You mentioned that 'NON-alphanumeric' characters so I make fill my library with ALL-alphanumeric songs without any NON-alphanumeric characters all over the list. But still the problem happens. Yet another thought : did you do a Settings > Library > "Full Rescan" after removing the special characters from the tags ? Might otherwise be worth a try, sometimes the normal scanner keeps some obsolete information in the library. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmp Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Thanks for the report. Did you recently uploaded/added new tracks to the device? Also may be you noticed some specific category exhibits this behavior (is it albums? Or artist albums? Or else?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoratioAlgerIII Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 I too experience this problem, where Now Playing shows the wrong song. This has been happening since I upgraded to V3. I've added and deleted numerous tracks since then, but the issue remains. What seems to happen is that the "wrong" track displayed in Now Playing relates to the same ordinal track number in the "All Songs" list as viewed from the main screen. So, if I play Track 1 of an album, what Now Playing shows is the first track from the All Songs list. Track 2 of the album I'm listening to is displayed as the 2nd track in the All Songs list. Because the All Songs list is displayed and presumably stored in alphabetical order, the tracks displayed in Now Playing tend to be those that begin with non-alpha characters (if such are present on the phone), because they come first in the All Songs list, alphabetically speaking. On my phone, I have the Lemon Jelly album "'64' - '95", each track of which starts with "'" and a 2-digit number representing an abbreviated year. I see the track list of this album appear sequentially in Now Playing almost every time I start the app. Sometimes, if I minimise the app, or restart it, the problem goes away and the correct song is displayed in Now Playing. Hope this adds a little to the discussion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaubär Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 7 hours ago, HoratioAlgerIII said: I too experience this problem, where Now Playing shows the wrong song. This has been happening since I upgraded to V3. I've added and deleted numerous tracks since then, but the issue remains. What seems to happen is that the "wrong" track displayed in Now Playing relates to the same ordinal track number in the "All Songs" list as viewed from the main screen. So, if I play Track 1 of an album, what Now Playing shows is the first track from the All Songs list. Track 2 of the album I'm listening to is displayed as the 2nd track in the All Songs list. Because the All Songs list is displayed and presumably stored in alphabetical order, the tracks displayed in Now Playing tend to be those that begin with non-alpha characters (if such are present on the phone), because they come first in the All Songs list, alphabetically speaking. On my phone, I have the Lemon Jelly album "'64' - '95", each track of which starts with "'" and a 2-digit number representing an abbreviated year. I see the track list of this album appear sequentially in Now Playing almost every time I start the app. Sometimes, if I minimise the app, or restart it, the problem goes away and the correct song is displayed in Now Playing. Hope this adds a little to the discussion! Yes, it does ! It seems to be clear by now that this has nothing to do with special characters, but a missing filter in the set of tracks that the miniplayer works on, or a pointer to the wrong set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewilley Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 It seems like the special characters bit might have been a red-herring after all, and it only happens with those files because they are the first items in the sorted All Songs list. Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaubär Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoratioAlgerIII Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 The new build seems to have done the trick. I've played around with different tracks and Now Playing has always shown the correct name so far. Thanks to Max for his efforts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhoy007 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 On 4/15/2019 at 11:28 PM, HoratioAlgerIII said: I too experience this problem, where Now Playing shows the wrong song. This has been happening since I upgraded to V3. I've added and deleted numerous tracks since then, but the issue remains. What seems to happen is that the "wrong" track displayed in Now Playing relates to the same ordinal track number in the "All Songs" list as viewed from the main screen. So, if I play Track 1 of an album, what Now Playing shows is the first track from the All Songs list. Track 2 of the album I'm listening to is displayed as the 2nd track in the All Songs list. Because the All Songs list is displayed and presumably stored in alphabetical order, the tracks displayed in Now Playing tend to be those that begin with non-alpha characters (if such are present on the phone), because they come first in the All Songs list, alphabetically speaking. On my phone, I have the Lemon Jelly album "'64' - '95", each track of which starts with "'" and a 2-digit number representing an abbreviated year. I see the track list of this album appear sequentially in Now Playing almost every time I start the app. Sometimes, if I minimise the app, or restart it, the problem goes away and the correct song is displayed in Now Playing. Hope this adds a little to the discussion! I also realized that this is it. I think they should focus on getting this straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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