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@maxmp Version 815 Version is very good and too much if it is possible to add the ability to outgoing and entering tags from the artist album. Additional option in the user interface can help this. Setting> General >player UI >alternative Display {Default theme alternative-Poweramp Alternative layout-Do not display labels

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+1 for a do not display labels with the option to only show the song title would be very usefull. Artist and album info are displayed on the cover most of the time and folder hierarchy users can display the folder name (most of the time the album title) in the bottom of the screen. Maybe artis - year - album label can be added to the infotag in the bottom of the screen?

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It would be great if Max could implement a 'custom' format for both the upper (larger) and lower (smaller) lines of text, settable per each List Options view and also separately for the Player UI. The pretty-much standard notation of using % tags would be perfect - such as "%artist% (%year%") %album%" for example. Could even add a basic small/medium/large font-size control at the same time.

Not sure whether that would mess up transition animations, but some users might prefer that kind of control over fancy animations anyway. 

Andre

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On 12/28/2018 at 12:15 PM, andrewilley said:

It would be great if Max could implement a 'custom' format for both the upper (larger) and lower (smaller) lines of text, settable per each List Options view and also separately for the Player UI. The pretty-much standard notation of using % tags would be perfect - such as "%artist% (%year%") %album%" for example. Could even add a basic small/medium/large font-size control at the same time.

Not sure whether that would mess up transition animations, but some users might prefer that kind of control over fancy animations anyway. 

Andre

@maxmp I +1 these ideas.  This is an excellent thing and no reason the newer (i.e. should be better) version of Poweramp shouldn't have this built in.  I've been using "MusicBee" as my desktop music player for many years and being able to choose which info is displayed and on which lines is a built-in part of it, and whatever space is leftover is given to album art and stuff like that.  Even the Poweramp widget allows us to choose what info we display and what size the fonts are and that sort of thing... no reason the Poweramp main UI shouldn't allow that (as it's the main UI I spend more time looking at anyway).

My biggest (basically only) complaint with Poweramp V3 is that the album art size shrunk in "alternative" mode (or got covered with tags that obscure the album art in "normal" mode)... and the screen real estate was given to other unnecessary things that weren't in the basic UI from Poweramp V2 (which is when I paid for the app).

So these ideas in this topic are the best of everything: they give each user access to the info they want to display (which can include making the album size bigger in "alternative" layout if the user chooses to give less space to the other tags) but without losing the other new and better features of Poweramp V3.  PLEASE implement this!  Give us (if possible) some way to make a borderless album art without obscuring it with tags on top of it (such as we had in the Poweramp v2 UI layout).

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Will something like the %tag custom format ever be implemented? I don't listen to albums, I make compilations and I'd like a simple list form with just %artist - %title.

Or is there a way to set this up? Thanks!

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And no-one would be forced to use it anyway, so I don't think it's a major issue if it affects both the list view and the player screen - that would be fine by me anyway. This question has come up a few times before, most recently just last week:

By putting an editable formatting string into each of the List Options menus, users would be able to configure their chosen display text separately for songs in Folders, Albums, Playlists, etc.

Andre

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16 hours ago, superluig164 said:

Y'know Max, it's okay if you have to fade the labels between the player view and list view.

In fact, that already happens if you have the "Show Titles Only" option enabled in List Options. The animation between screens has to dissolve the lower (Artist/Album) line in and out as you move between the Player screen and the songs list. But as I said above, I really can't see an issue with having the Player screen and the list view use the same modified strings.

Andre

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On 4/22/2021 at 6:56 PM, lockdown said:

Will something like the %tag custom format ever be implemented? I don't listen to albums, I make compilations and I'd like a simple list form with just %artist - %title.

Or is there a way to set this up? Thanks!

If there was a "show titles and artist only" instead of "show titles only" i would use it. When I'm in artist,  album artist,  genre,  or albums you really don't need the album title next to every song of the album you're looking at. I mean every song can only be that album. It's also in the header so you don't even have to leave the list to see what album you're on (if you got there though some other menu).

I don't know that i ever need to even see album title on the now playing screen. I think the cover art is enough to tell me what album I'm on. I just need to see the song title and possible multiple artists on the song. 

Album title next to the song is really only useful to me in folder hierarchy with a bunch of random songs in one folder. 

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@Absinthequ The formatting string concept that I suggested would allow you to do exactly what you suggest - so for Artist, Album Artist, Genre, and Album categories you would set the List Options top line format to "%title%" and the lower line to "%artist%". But for All Songs, Playlists, etc you could set the second line to "%artist% - %album%".

However as Max has said, the text lines on the Player Screen and in the Songs List are both built from the same data, so presumably whatever format you chose they would always be the same layout as each other - but I honestly can't see that's a real problem.

Maybe Max could perhaps give it a try and see how it works in practice? It wouldn't cause any user issues, as nothing would change until someone specifically edits the formatting string.

Andre

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On 4/26/2021 at 7:23 PM, andrewilley said:

@Absinthequ...

However as Max has said, the text lines on the Player Screen and in the Songs List are both built from the same data, so presumably whatever format you chose they would always be the same layout as each other - but I honestly can't see that's a real problem.

I would be fine with it across the board. 

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While answering an unrelated thread about the use of Album Artist tags, I realised that in addition to being able to create individual formatting strings for each different Category via the List Options menus, it would be a good idea to also have a global formatting string so people won't have to tweak lots of different entries if they just want a new default look. The global string would be overridden by any local Category List Options versions should the user decide to create them (the local strings would be mostly empty initially).

So in Settings > Library > Lists, the existing Album Artist Label for Tracks and Album Artist Label for Album Artist Tracks options would be replaced with the following two items - both pre-filled accordingly, so no user intervention at all would be required to just continue exactly as before:

      Track Title Formatting: %title%
      Track Subtitle Formatting: %artist% - %album%

I suggest a square bracket notation be utilised to indicate conditional content. Thus a formatting string of [%artist% - %album%] could used so the literal hyphen " - " would only be inserted should all of the bracketed fields (in this case both Artist and Album) be present. Without the square brackets, an empty field would be shown exactly as at present as "Unknown Artist" or "Unknown Album", etc.

The exact same features would be available in each Category's songs list, so users can override those default settings on a per-Category basis:

  • When this system first gets installed by a new build, if the existing 'Album Artist Label for Tracks' toggle was already enabled, the default 'Subtitle' line would be set to [%albumartist% - %album%]
  • If the existing 'Album Artist Label for Album Artist Tracks' toggle was already enabled, the local 'Subtitle' line in Library > Album Artist > List Options would be set to [%albumartist% - %album%]. Same would apply with the similar Albums toggle control.
  • Finally, if Settings > Library > Lists > Show Track Number was already configured to show "In the Title - Everywhere", then the default 'Title' line would be set to [%track%. ]%title%
  • [Edit added July 2021] The 'Hide Unknown Album' toggle control would also become redundant and could be removed. That functionality would be controlled instead by using %artist% - %album% vs. %artist%[ - %album%] (or even [%artist% - %album%] to allow for missing Artist tags too). The default version would be preset based on the existing 'Hide Unknown Album' setting before that control gets removed.


I think that covers pretty much everything that has popped up in the various feature request threads on this subject in the forums in the past, and this way would be transparent to users if they don't want to touch it. Is this something you think would be useful and do-able Max, or have I created a monster for you?

Andre

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