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3 hours ago, maxmp said:

v30 DAC always works when it's enabled via notification shade. I can confirm that PA @ V30 @ 8.0 has hi-res output from 3.5mm (in both modes - with DAC enabled or disabled) - verified with audio capturing.

Max, is the music being down sampled by PA v790? Is there a "bit perfect mode" ? I don't believe v790 is utilising the Quad DAC, but perhaps the built-in DAC instead. The music quality is not as good as the built in music player 

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I use a Galaxy S6 running on Android 7.0 the audio quality on the new Beta release is significantly degraded as compared to the previous beta versions. even with the audio headroom gain disabled there is no change in the sound quality. the volume is not loud enough, the base and the treble knobs  under the tone option  earlier used to give excellent bass and treble but with the latest beta release the bass knob distorts the audio badly when cranked up. Openssl output and the native playback doesn't work only the high-res output works but with very low volume and low quality.

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6 hours ago, maxmp said:

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Do you know about the bug in 705+ and 790 that when trying to control volume while screen is off, it will not work?

Trying to use volume will actually trigger shortcuts like camera ect.

If I go back to 704, it works normal.

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3 hours ago, darkblak said:

I don't think the DAC is being utilised by PA v790 on LG v30. I find the music quality so much better using built in player or USB Audio Player Pro. PA v790 may report it's being used - but I don't believe it is. I think PA v790 is down sampling the music and then passing it to the DAC

The quad dac should be being used if it is turned on and poweramps's hi-res works on both Oreo and Nougat so music shouldn't be downsampled. I could be wrong but I am pretty sure that the stock LG player resamples all audio to 16 bit/48khz. I generally use USB audio player pro as well.

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My device is Sony XZ Premium, it's hardware is just like XZ1. I wish it could get Hi-Res support soon

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16 minutes ago, Silversmith said:

The quad dac should be being used if it is turned on and poweramps's hi-res works on both Oreo and Nougat so music shouldn't be downsampled. I could be wrong but I am pretty sure that the stock LG player resamples all audio to 16 bit/48khz. I generally use USB audio player pro as well.

I've got USB Audio... set to Bit Perfect mode.

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Хочу вмюсе скачать и посмотреть и не скачивает. 

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@maxmp Xperia XA1 Ultra андр. 8.0 Заработало лишь после полной переустановки, а так вылетало при запуске. HD работает как может...

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23 hours ago, BROKEN said:

Do you know about the bug in 705+ and 790 that when trying to control volume while screen is off, it will not work?

Trying to use volume will actually trigger shortcuts like camera ect.

If I go back to 704, it works normal.

yep!

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26 minutes ago, pinkylove said:

Hey im new to this forum..which is the newest version...thanks

 

709 is the latest test build that is 'feature complete', and features high-res audio and some other new features such as visualisations. It is suitable for daily use, and works with some older versions of Android.

790 is a test version of the new user interface, but it is lacking in a number of fairly major features (such as many of the Library and Playlist facilities). It is very pretty, but not really ready for daily use until the missing features are brought into the new interface system. It only works with Android 5.0, and is the direction that the app will be going for the main v3 official release.

Andre

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After many hours of use I miss an indicator that shows the track number, for example like 4/11

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1 hour ago, Tibor said:

After many hours of use I miss an indicator that shows the track number, for example like 4/11

There's one on the notification bar

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Tried running the newest 709 build on my HTC One M8 - seems like the "High Res Output (Experimental)" option has disappeared from my device with this update?

Rolling back to version 703 restores the option, with the variant "Snapdragon 24-bit PCM" listed.

Is there a way to get the High-Res output feature back and working on the new 709 release with my device?

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6 minutes ago, Neosiris said:

LOOOOOOL, are y'all seriously hoping for the final version to be released before June as max said in his statement? 

It's never gonna happen haha! Unless he forgot to add the 2034 as the year of release

Don't you have anything better to do?

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The OnePlus 3 alongside the OnePlus 3T should both support OpenSL HD Output.

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13 hours ago, Abaddon Ormuz said:

There's one on the notification bar

Nice! Didn't notice before. Thanks

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4 hours ago, Neosiris said:

LOOOOOOL, are y'all seriously hoping for the final version to be released before June as max said in his statement? 

It's never gonna happen haha! Unless he forgot to add the 2034 as the year of release

You Posted the same thing 5 months ago.. But still PA v3 got released ?

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I don't have that many issues with this build except for using Bluetooth in my car. The compatibility went from "literally perfect" to "basically nothing works" when I updated my phone to Android 8.0 (phone is the original OnePlus3). The situation in this beta got even worse compared to the previous Alpha version.

Basically, my car supports full ID3 tag display, seekbar with time, fast forwarding and rewind, toggling of shuffle and repeat, and of course play pause and skipping back and forth. I'm pretty sure it also supports browsing the music library but I've never seen it work on Android (I've seen it work on some iPhones).

On Android 7 on both the alpha and the regular version everything was just perfect, I could even triple click the fast forward or rewind button to go to the next album or playlist, it was the best thing ever.

On Android 8 on alpha only the audio streaming works but nothing else, there is no display of seekbar and ID3 info, buttons don't work except for play/pause, and there are major skips in the sound.

Since this is a mandatory feature for me, if you need a beta tester to check out BT compatibility I will offer myself volountary. I do not have this issue with other player, besides, on Android 7 it worked just perfectly.

My car is the Toyota Aygo  2015 which uses the same system as the Peugeot 108 and Citroen C1 2015.

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On 03/05/2018 at 10:46 AM, Death-Dealer said:

F ing thank you for not being a fanboy! 

I'm glad to see there are other people out there don't automatically love shitty things because they're new and shiny. If it's new and fancy, it's automatically awesome no matter how objectively awful it is.

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On 5/3/2018 at 7:27 PM, Ameya28 said:

Well they are a PIA if you have butter fingers of course! Plus the wavebar is something exclusive to Poweramp right now and is not implemented other than SoundCloud quite fine in working. What you are suggesting will degrade the ui forget making it better . I get that people would love to have both the options but it isn't easy to implement.

They're a pain in the ass by their very nature, tap is more natural than swipe, overswiping is far too easy, accidental swiping is far too easy, and buttons are, in fact, more intuitive. Buttons are an obvious function, swiping isn't, if you have to figure out how to do something, even if it takes a second or two, then it's by definition not intuitive, intuitive means just picking it up and using it without having to think about how.

And so TF what if the wavebar is exclusive to PA? That doesn't make it good, it just means Poweramp is the only app that uses. Ever think that maybe there's a good reason for this, because it's a pointless eyesore that takes up far too much screen space and serve no useful purpose? And this just demonstrates the point I made to Death_Dealer, your entire argument for the wavebar is that it's new and exclusive. Your argument is that it should stay because it's a novelty, not because it's useful, not because it adds anything, but because it's new, and fancy, and shiny. Fanboys will be fanboys.

What I'm suggesting would improve the UI, which wouldn't be hard, because the UI is crap. Complete crap. On every single conceivable level. Sticking with idiotic plans simply because they took a long time to make and changing them would be hard is just as idiotic as the plans, themsleves.. I'll gladly wait another two years if it means Max comes out with a new UI that isn't utterly horrid in every way.

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3 hours ago, Devin said:

They're a pain in the ass by their very nature, tap is more natural than swipe, overswiping is far too easy, accidental swiping is far too easy, and buttons are, in fact, more intuitive. Buttons are an obvious function, swiping isn't, if you have to figure out how to do something, even if it takes a second or two, then it's by definition not intuitive, intuitive means just picking it up and using it without having to think about how.

The interface is intuitive and stop. Material design app have also introduction screens: when the app will be complete maybe there will be one with the description on how to do certain things like skipping etc. Other thing: the wavebar use is evident; you can fast move through the music and you can see most important frequencies. Last but not less important the fact that ui is crap is just for your own personal way of thinking that isn't universal. There is no need to be rude. And not, I'm not a fanboy. Bye

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4 hours ago, Devin said:

They're a pain in the ass by their very nature, tap is more natural than swipe, overswiping is far too easy, accidental swiping is far too easy, and buttons are, in fact, more intuitive. Buttons are an obvious function, swiping isn't, if you have to figure out how to do something, even if it takes a second or two, then it's by definition not intuitive, intuitive means just picking it up and using it without having to think about how.

And so TF what if the wavebar is exclusive to PA? That doesn't make it good, it just means Poweramp is the only app that uses. Ever think that maybe there's a good reason for this, because it's a pointless eyesore that takes up far too much screen space and serve no useful purpose? And this just demonstrates the point I made to Death_Dealer, your entire argument for the wavebar is that it's new and exclusive. Your argument is that it should stay because it's a novelty, not because it's useful, not because it adds anything, but because it's new, and fancy, and shiny. Fanboys will be fanboys.

What I'm suggesting would improve the UI, which wouldn't be hard, because the UI is crap. Complete crap. On every single conceivable level. Sticking with idiotic plans simply because they took a long time to make and changing them would be hard is just as idiotic as the plans, themsleves.. I'll gladly wait another two years if it means Max comes out with a new UI that isn't utterly horrid in every way.

[Obscenities and personal insults deleted -- Admin]

UI is subjective and I can't call anyone's opinion on the matter right or wrong. The new UI works better for some and not so much for others and progress might not always be good but MD will make Poweramp more accessible to more people. I personally miss the buttons and I also hate gestures but I can live with them. Maybe a future update will bring back the buttons.

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6 hours ago, Devin said:

They're a pain in the ass by their very nature, tap is more natural than swipe, overswiping is far too easy, accidental swiping is far too easy, and buttons are, in fact, more intuitive. Buttons are an obvious function, swiping isn't, if you have to figure out how to do something, even if it takes a second or two, then it's by definition not intuitive, intuitive means just picking it up and using it without having to think about how.

And so TF what if the wavebar is exclusive to PA? That doesn't make it good, it just means Poweramp is the only app that uses. Ever think that maybe there's a good reason for this, because it's a pointless eyesore that takes up far too much screen space and serve no useful purpose? And this just demonstrates the point I made to Death_Dealer, your entire argument for the wavebar is that it's new and exclusive. Your argument is that it should stay because it's a novelty, not because it's useful, not because it adds anything, but because it's new, and fancy, and shiny. Fanboys will be fanboys.

What I'm suggesting would improve the UI, which wouldn't be hard, because the UI is crap. Complete crap. On every single conceivable level. Sticking with idiotic plans simply because they took a long time to make and changing them would be hard is just as idiotic as the plans, themsleves.. I'll gladly wait another two years if it means Max comes out with a new UI that isn't utterly horrid in every way.

[Obscenities and personal insults deleted -- Admin]

If you really think you're that intelligent and have such blind arrogance. How do you over swipe using these gestures? Is your phone that laggy?

The gestures have a snap to them and a set animation they're not a revolving door. 

Also I used the 790 build since release and its my first time EVER using Power Amp. Didnt need any explanation of the gestures. But it doesn't take a genius either smh. Went back to the old UI just to see what it was like for a few minutes and I thought it was pretty jarring tbh. Very outdated.

That being said the new UI is great on the NP screen and i personally dont mind this but everything else right now is plain. Understandable, your attitude isnt. Essentially the UI is an alpha build and no doubt will have many options in the future plus skins.

Would also love to see an option to have the artist page as start page and have it like the album page but on a bigger grid. As well as having an option to turn off the drop shadow around album art on NP screen or just in general for everywhere there's albums/artist images.

 

EDIT: Oh dang I forgot to try pinch zoom on lists for weeks haha, didn't realize it changed the grids!, 3x3 looks great on my s8+ max res. A 4x4 grid would be nice too!

While I'm at it I just want to say amazing work on the sound and new UI so far. @maxmp

 

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