drftr

Thank you for not trying to defend Poweramp no matter what, and keeping an open mind instead. My gear is a couple of grand and I'm simply trying to keep the great UI and functionality of Poweramp without missing out on the ultimate sound quality. There's hundreds and hundreds of people like me looking for the best possible quality out of a portable setup and I was simply trying to point out the opportunity to become the top 1 app that has it all because that simply doesn't exist now. If that is not a desirable goal then so be it and I absolutely understand. But hiding behind invalid arguments doesn't help either case. It's best to make business decisions with eyes on facts, possibilities, business goals, and restrictions. drftr

Listen to the differences and you'd be good Andre. But it's better that you don't. Saves a lot of money. drftr

When using an external DAC and bit perfect it apparently is advisable to use max volume from the phone so that's what I do. From reading I take it a bit perfect signal degrades when not doing so. I call that a bit-less-perfect, but anyway. The things we do for love... 😉 drftr

I'm simply sharing the thoughts of dozens and dozens on Head-Fi DAC forums that feel forced to move to UAPP to arrive at the sound quality they're looking for. If that's not a priority that's just fine and probably a good choice: It's in the mainstream one makes money. It's simply a pity that people who want to step up their game to high end quality can't ise the same app. But so be it. Our problem indeed. drftr

I guess that's a No then? Bummer... Nobody wants to move away because of sound quality 😢 drftr

Hi, I'm buying the highly regarded Cayin RU6 DAC to catapult the sound quality of my phone into audiophile levels. To truly use its benefits it needs to avoid Android's upsampling and receive a bit perfect signal. AFAIK the most common apps that can deliver this for external DACs are UAPP and Neutron. But since I've been using Poweramp with so much pleasure over the past year I don't really want to give up on it. For that reason I want to do a last check: Are there any upcoming plans to circumvent upsampling so that Poweramp can be used for more audiophile solutions? Tnx... drftr

Yes, you have to switch them On to be Off. Or the other way around. Nobody really knows. But I do confirm you need to do "something" with them, which is confirmed in many other posts as well. drftr

Well, that's about the same answer I'm getting on the UAPP forum about Poweramp, so I guess we're all simply defending our own takes. Oh well... drftr

I don't think that's the question nor the problem and I exactly consider it an excellent question: Why / how can some apps reach more amplification than others? You gave some good potential reasons, but I can imagine why the OP is interested in finding out as I've had volume problems myself earlier on. And having a setting for "11" doesn't mean you have to use it. It maybe simply make you more comfortable (and the sound quality better) to reach for 9 in your settings. drftr

I got around this a few decades ago by doing something similar to Andre's first suggestion (but the other way 'round) and have adopted the system that a country name has the continent it belongs to as a prefix. So when searching for music from Nigeria I know I have to look at the tag "Africa: Nigeria". But this way I can also find all music for African countries. Same same but different. And works like a charm no matter what music app you use now or in the future. drftr

Audiophiles probably make up less than 0.01% percent of music lovers so that may explain the choice. Most will simply be impressed to read that the app can "upsample" and drink a beer on it 😞 drftr

I'm sure I've seen comments of him about Hiby R5 support and an app that could be received by email. The same may exist (or work) for your device. Just try. drftr

Have you contacted Davy on the possibility to buy it directly? He's extremely helpful. I don't see why you would have to remain logged on though? drftr

I'm in the same boat but have accepted the fact that I will have to look for a different app for this. I want my music app to do exactly NOTHING to the source signal. A source signal can never ever be improved; only distorted to make it sound more comfortable. These are completely different goals and audiophiles will always choose for zero intervention. It's disturbing to see there's basically only UAPP taking a zero intervention approach while being still being an app that is workable. drftr

Tha Thanks Max. I have all options on the notifications tab in PO switched off, notifications in Android 11 are off for PA. In addition to that Do Not Disturb is on, the Always On display is off, Google Assistant is off, Bixby is off, Appear On Top is off, Floating Notations is off, notifications on the lock screen are off, and all widgets are off. Can't get it further "off" unless I remove the battery! A joke, isn't it? drftr