Airsculpture
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On 2/16/2023 at 3:36 PM, ScarletNeko said:
I used 32bit ALAC in the past, and never had issues with them. I haven't used them recently, it was quite a bit ago, so I can't really assure you that the current version will have no issues, but it shouldn't based on my past experiences.
Try increasing your audio buffer and making sure no other apps are trying to play audio, also close apps that are running to free up some resources, might help. My phone is pretty much archaic already and I have no issues with 32 bit files (never had with WavPack and ALAC, and now FLAC has been working fine as well).
I'm not using 32 bit files.
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21 minutes ago, maxmp said:
@Airsculpture the skip issue highlighted by the user was issue with newly supported 32 bit flacs and this is fixed already.
If you still have issues with some files in build 954 - this is unrelated issue - please share the problematic files with gpmaxmpz@gmail.com for tests.
If it’s random in nature - then it’s not the file issue, but either a CPU throttling (usually can be disabled in app background settings), or buffering issue.Thanks!
Thanks mate. Will take a look at that 👍
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22 hours ago, maxmp said:
@Airsculpture unfortunately, no known issues for ALAC exist, so there were no any changes in this regard.
I don’t think it’s specific to ALAC (it’s just ALAC is all I have) but rather the skip issue highlighted by the other user.
Any way, it’s so random (doesn’t happen in the same spot on the same file) and so infrequent, that it’s not a major issue. Plus I can always alternate with the stock FiiO player on the M11.
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Nope. Did it again on an ALAC 44khz file.
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On 2/11/2023 at 12:27 PM, maxmp said:
@Airsculpture if you mean 32-bit flac issue, this is fixed in 953.
Yep, so far so good
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On 2/6/2023 at 5:23 PM, ScarletNeko said:
Thanks a lot for adding support to 32bit FLAC files!
But there is some strange behavior going on. Some files have playback issues. It's almost like a CD skipping, or broken buffering, the audio changes in speed and jitters back and forth.
At first I thought I had broken files, so I went and remade them, with a more recent version of the encoder, but the problem persisted. So I listened to them on the PC and they play perfectly fine there, both the original files and the remade ones, so the files are not the issue. I tried moving the files from the SD card (which is a decent unit with sane speeds) to the internal memory and the problem still persisted. It doesn't seem like weak hardware either as I can play much heavier 32bit WavPack files such as hhx6 ones without issues, and the phone doesn't even warm up or anything. I also tried changing the buffer size, turning the equalizer on or off and changing the output sample rates, no dice, the playback issues continue.
This doesn't affect a single file either, entire albums are like this, while others play fine even if they are made with the exact same settings on the exact same encoder.
Another interesting thing is, there are heavier files (higher sample rates and bitrates) that also play perfectly fine, proving that it doesn't seem like a hardware issue. 32bit 96kHz files seem to be the most affected for some reason.
I gotta say though I'm pretty sure the player I'm using on PC (Foobar2000) to play these files does not use ffmpeg to decode these FLACs instead relying on libFLAC as it has been able to play 32bit FLAC files way before ffmpeg could, so maybe thats an ffmpeg thing?
I’ve had this too on various files, independent of sample and bit rate all of a sudden. Thought it might have been SD card failure but apparently not when same files are played with stock FiiO player on the FiiO M11
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On 2/3/2023 at 3:57 PM, maxmp said:
@Airsculpture some firmwares allow only one direct output (artificial limitation) and that direct output can be locked/used by other player. Poweramp then obviously can't use it and fallbacks to standard definition.
Thanks for the feedback. Rebooting seems to free it up then it defaults to 192k on any file. Doesn't effect sound quality, just seems unnecessary upsampling. Not a killer but just an observational change from Build 939 to anything after that build.
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Still having the issue on any build above 939 where I cannot select hires output in Output as in build 939 and am forced to use openSL.
I can set 24/96 here as fixed output but as soon as a different player is used and say plays as 16/44 track and the user returns to Poweramp, the output is set to this output (in the sample rate section it is set to Defined by device with the only other options as 44.1 and 48)
Rebooted the device, played the same 24/96 tracks and device is now displaying 192K until players are switched and we are back down the same rabbit hole.
With this setting, instead of previously being locked at 24/96 as in build 939, Poweramp is picking up whatever the sample rate was last played by either the stock FiiO player or say USB Audio Player Pro
This is on a FiiO M11.
Back to build 939 🙄
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Fixed sample rate output (at 96khz) hasn’t worked on the FiiO M11 since build 939. 945 didn’t work, neither does this one on the M11.
Went back to that build and works according to the PA limitation/design.
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Yep, I realise that, having spent 30 years in software testing , we never tested every single possible combination either, and it was very large companies I was working for.
At least everything is fine on the previous build and I don’t think I’m missing much 👍
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3 hours ago, andrewilley said:
Max did say that the improved high-res detection code he implemented in builds 941+ should give more accurate results. Some devices which said they were using and outputting via high-res on 939 actually weren't - regardless of what the audio path info showed, Android was not sending out high-res data. So sadly in some cases using 'high-res' on 939 was in fact just a placebo effect, but the path reporting on 945 should be more reliable.
I'm not sure if that is the case here, we'd need some input from @maxmp on that.
Andre
The independent indicator on my FiiO M11 which is outside of Poweramp indicates correctly in 939 that PA is kicking out the correct hires static fixed output, but wasn’t in the latest version. So it seems to be back working as designed in the older version which is ok by me.
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Both 3.5mm and 4.4mm were the same on build 945.
The previous build 939 ? fixed the issue for both outputs.
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Very possible and with the M11 using an old amended OS it’s very probable
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I donwnloaded from the website. I actually don't think I will bother trying it with 945 again now that I have everything back - two 400GB SD cards scanned, playlists imported, several custom EQ settings added. I haven't noticed anything in 945 that I'm actively missing so I will this time play it safe and stay put.
Between the FiiO stock player, USB Audio Pro and Poweramp I think I'm covered (whilst I don't use USB Audio player much as the UI is pretty hideous)
Thank you very much for your time MG, I do appreciate it.
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Update:
Installed Build 939 and rescanned library. Those options of Sample rate are ALL now present in the Hi Res Output section of audio settings. So I am assuming it has something to do with Build 945 in conjunction with the FiiO M11.
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That's correct MG. Just removed the install and trying Build 939.
Will update outcome
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28 minutes ago, Fitzian said:
M11S is the newer dual-sabre DAC implementation. The fact that there exists an M11, M11 Ltd, M11 Pro, and M11S complicates things, as the first two are AKM based and the latter two are ESS based.
@AirsculptureWhat does the audio output detections log show you?
Audio Log
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17 minutes ago, Fitzian said:
Reset audio output to defaults for every output option and see the behavior, then.
No change unfortunately on the M11. It's now locked on 48k with setting "Defined by Device". Thanks for trying Fitz.
It may be that i go back to the stock FiiO music app, at least that recognizes the source file format correctly without all this messing around. I love the speed of the UI in Poweramp but I'm spending way too much time messing with settings and not enjoying the FiiO M11.
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It’s now back to displaying 192k.
I give up 😂🤦♂️
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2 minutes ago, MotleyG said:
Go to Settings>Audio>Output>Hi-Res Output and enable that for all three options you see (Wired Headset, Bluetooth, and USB DAC). You can tap into these, especially for the Wired Headset option. Make sure you set the sample rate to defined by device and sample format to Auto, this will let Poweramp use the highest scale that is available on your device.
At least until there is an option to follow the source frequency, this will ensure Poweramp is using the highest output to match the DACs in your device.
Nope. Like I say on the M11, the only option there is USB DAC unlike the alternative place where about 5 different outputs are listed.
Side note. I thought I’d test switching DVC back on and it’s still outputting 96k so who knows what the reason is, clearly wasn’t switching DVC off that solved it.
Very confusing 🤓😂
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10 minutes ago, MotleyG said:
A "Follow Source" option has been long requested but doesn't yet exist in Poweramp.
Does your M11 not work with the Hi-Res Output selected? I have a different brand of DAP (iBasso DX160) and find it is a more stable solution for me (and DVC is disabled).
Not sure what you mean in your second paragraph MG ?
Love the iBasso DAPs by the way.
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7 minutes ago, Fitzian said:
This gets requested often. See the frequently requested features index for threads detailing reasons why it hasn't appeared in Poweramp yet.
You should be using the direct or hi res (experimental) output, btw. Not opensl es.
Doesn’t seem to an option for that on the FiiO M11
I think on the M11 that’s only available for USB output.
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Update :
I switched off DVC and the 24/96 files along with everything else that isn’t 24/96, is now displaying 96k, which is what it was doing prior to this issue.
Wish it would act like USB Audio Pro and the stock FiiO Music app and just output whatever the source file is but it never has unfortunately
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8 minutes ago, MotleyG said:
What is your output set to in Poweramp, scroll that Audio Info page to the bottom. Also, do you have any external DSPs turned on that may be forcing the output stage into 44.1kHz?
I have sample rate set as “Defined by device” if that’s any help, only other options MG are 44.1 and 48 ?!
I don’t have anything else running.
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Yep.
Sold the FiiO M11 and now using the iBasso DX320. Loaded Poweramp with latest build and ALL set bit rates/sample rates are available to be selected. Whilst still have the limitation of only choosing set rates instead of auto detect, they are all back working. So it was clearly an issue with the OS/hardware on the M11.
Glad to be using the latest builds again with all their improvements when I’m not using the stock Mango player 👍