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  1. It's a widget.  Right now, it seems broken (on my device anyhow), which is why I posted.  But if you go to Poweramp widgets, you'll see a 1X1 widget entitled "playlists".  On my device (samsung note 9) you then drag the widget to the screen.  There's will be a pop-up that has a tick box if you want your playlist to play at random.  Tick that first if that's what you want.  Then on the left there is a list of all your playlists.  Tap on one of them and the widget transforms into a shortcut that (when it's working) plays that playlist with one tap.  (It's not working right now).  These shortcuts can be put (at least on a note 9) into a folder, as shown in my screenshot.  It's a brilliant extra feature that I love, and I currently miss, and I trust @maxmp  to fix it, as he's done with all the other features that have needed work. 

    Because the widget is 1X1, it looks like an icon.  You can put a bunch of them into a folder.  

  2. It's an odd mix, like a trifle. Started with a large compilation of English psych-folk from the late '60s and early '70s.  (E.g. Bridget St. John, Vashti Bunyan).  Added updates on that style (Six Organs of Admittance, Big Thief).  Added extensions into "soft" psychedelia (Julia Holter, solo Robert Plant), and related American Primitive-style guitar (William Tyler, Glenn Jones) and straight-up Indian ragas (Anoushka Shankar, Ustad Bismillah Khan).

    The name is from "Images of Passing Clouds", a song by Gary Farr, who describes the clouds as "like a trifle."  If you get your hands on "Dust on the Nettles: 1967-1972" I highly recommend it.  

    Thanks for asking.  I have a similar playlist on Spotify:  https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4e2OjcOtLGphTpxzemDd2Z

  3. Small problem with one of the two widgets I use.  The 1 X 1 widget allows me to put a playlist on the home screen and to play that playlist, randomized, just by touching the icon.  I love that feature, and have a whole bundle of playlist shortcuts set up to do that.  Since the last update, though, when I touch the icon for any playlist, the only thing that happens is that Poweramp opens to the last music played.  I tried reinstalling different playlist widgets, but it doesn't help.  I also tried turning off any battery savers or other restrictions, and that also did not work. I know this can be fixed because it was working beautifully only a few days ago.  Thanks for any help.

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  4. I have the problem on my Note 9.  Noticed something wrong, so I spent half a day with Poweramp force stopped.  Used less than five percent of my available battery.  Turned on Poweramp, and listened to some music, and it was reading that Poweramp used about 15% of my available battery after around three hours.  That seems like alot, and is certainly more than it used to use.  

    I am not an engineer, so I don't know what the significance of @maxmp 's description of not being able to reproduce the problem means.  Whatever people are experiencing is a real issue and worth investigating.  Something must have changed in one of the last few updates to cause such a large increase in battery use.  

  5. 8 hours ago, karloto said:

    It seems that for v3 randomize queue doesn't work anymore. I used to make a queue from various folders and then switch on the random playlist and songs mode. What can I do?

    This is a real issue for me as well.  I posted several times about it, and haven't gotten a satisfactory response.  Creating a temporary playlist is really not a solution.

  6. On 11/10/2018 at 4:26 AM, andrewilley said:

    The queue was never intended for shuffling all albums by an artist, it is just a temporary break from normal playback to play a single or a few specific tracks. It is not a regular playback mode.

    To shuffle all songs by an artist, start any song playing in Artists mode and then select the Shuffle mode as "Shuffle Songs" and each album by that artist will play with the songs in random order.

    Andre

    Whatever the original intention, v2 enabled a more intensive use of the queue, as more than a quick break from "normal" playback.  And I had been relying on it, and am very disappointed to see it taken out of v3.

    For me, a shuffled queue was a planned listening session, to program far more music than I had time to listen to, and present it at random, just like a radio station, created on the spot.  Not a playlist, though, because it is an impromptu selection of music.

    When you shuffle one album, it's a conceit, and almost pointless.  But throw together, say, a Beatles album, a Kinks album, a Pink Floyd album, a Stones album, some Doors, some Hendrix, maybe a Byrds album, and press "shuffle" and pretty soon it sounds like a really good '60s radio station.  IMHO, there's an art to it.  Adding and subtracting to a queue until it sounds right, once it's perfect you save a playlist, and pretty soon you have one for every mood.  Essential for me anyway.

    Once my collection passed the 250 album mark, picking one album every time I want to listen to music became burdensome.  Instead, for myself I listen to established playlists, and, when I am working with a large collection of unheard music, experimental queues.  Out with other people, especially in the car with family, queues are essential, to include the music they like without making anyone crazy with too much of any one thing in particular.  My daughter likes country music.  Drives my wife crazy.  Wife likes reggae.  I like everything, including weird stuff that nobody else likes.  So if I program 500 songs from all categories, and hit "shuffle", everybody's music is just around the corner, and there will be peace.  And the very pleasant element of surprise, like a good radio station, that comes from something unexpected that you like.

    So there's a good reason why queues should be able to be shuffled.  Try it yourself.  

  7. On 11/7/2018 at 2:27 PM, maxmp said:

    Thanks for the request. In the next build queue was changed in regard to shuffle / repeat modes (queue now ignores those).

    Added suggested queue option in todo list.

    Good to hear it's being worked on.  I'd love to hear how you will be implementing it.  I agree with Hitmeister that it was great when the queue would start after the current list.  For me, the ability to shuffle a queue of music was essential, and I am really disappointed that it was taken away.  I'm hoping it will be restored, at least as an option.   Thanks.

  8. 18 hours ago, Absinthequ said:

    I use Poweramp about 40 hrs a week probably since Poweramp came out and think I've used shuffle once, ever. I can see why people would want to use it but can't imagine many people use it to shuffle albums as an essential feature of the player.

    I started using mp3's in 1997 and I don't think I've ever seen album shuffle on any other player on any platform until Poweramp.

    But I get why you're upset it left. I'm still requesting the album artist tags get fixed something like they were in v2. But don't throw a fit. Max is obviously consistently making changes to try please everyone. Make a request and be patient. If he stops making updates then we riot. Lol

    Okay, I'll try to be patient.

    When you shuffle one album, it's a conceit, and almost pointless.  But throw together, say, a Beatles album, a Kinks album, a Pink Floyd album, a Stones album, some Doors, some Hendrix, maybe a Byrds album, and press "shuffle" and pretty soon it sounds like a really good '60s radio station.  IMHO, there's an art to it.  Adding and subtracting to a queue until it sounds right, once it's perfect you save a playlist, and pretty soon you have one for every mood.  Essential for me anyway.

    Once my collection passed the 250 album mark, picking one album every time I want to listen to music became burdensome.  Instead, for myself I listen to established playlists, and, when I am working with a large collection of unheard music, experimental queues.  Out with other people, especially in the car with family, queues are essential, to include the music they like without making anyone crazy with too much of any one thing in particular.  

  9. 15 hours ago, djdarko said:

    A lot of us have different concerns, and while I don't really use the queue or shuffle functions myself, I can understand the troubles of those who do.

    Remember that V3 is still in beta, Max (the developer) has mentioned that he is still planning some changes and modifications. The best thing to do is to list your concerns clearly, detailing what you would like fixed/changed. Max has been updating the app quite frequently, so if your suggestions are rational, give him a chance to fix it.

    Adding an @maxmp will help too, because it gives him a notification that he was mentioned in the post.

    Okay, I'm adding an @maxmp 

    My basic concern is simple:  I should be able to load a queue with a few albums' worth of music, and play them at random by pressing the "random play" button.  This was an essential function that worked in earlier iterations of v3, and was, unaccountably, intentionally disabled.

  10. 7 hours ago, andrewilley said:

    Yes, use a Playlist rather than the Queue. The queue is just a brief and temporary means to exit from normal playback and listen to a few specific songs. It is transient and not intended to be used as a regular listening mode, that's what the main Library categories are for.

    Andre

    Transient randomized playing of a few albums, that everyone at the car or at the party likes and have chosen, on the transient and impromptu spot, is exactly what v2 allowed and this one doesn't.  Randomization of chosen on-the-spot music is an essential function.  I shouldn't have to build a playlist.  A queue is far better:  you can add from and subtract from it on the fly, without alot of steps.  I used to use it as the MAIN way I'd listen to Poweramp.  My playlists, and I have many, all originated as particularly nice queues, a few chosen albums and songs blended together,  that sounded good when randomized.  This is the best way to listen to Poweramp, at least for users like me, and now it is gone.   

    I am a huge music fan, with a large collection, and many carefully chosen playlists.  I go on alot of long car trips.  If Poweramp is no longer designed for a user like me, then you are forcing me to go elsewhere.  But I have to ask:  if it isn't designed for a user like me, then who in creation is it designed for?

  11. 2 hours ago, djdarko said:

    I bought it back when it was on sale for .99 cents, it's an OK player, it's one of few players that supports cue files, but it doesn't compare to Poweramp.

    No, nothing compares to Poweramp, which is why it's so disappointing when essential functions, to me (and the others who have posted on this issue) get taken away.  The fact that some people don't use a basic function like playing a list at random, doesn't mean that it should be taken away from the large number of people who have  come to rely on it.  Yes, when something essential is taken away from those of us who like Poweramp, and paid for it, it would be just basic courtesy to give an explanation.  Ad hominem attacks on me don't really respond to the issue.  Taken to its ultimate conclusion, Poweramp will just wind up losing customers to inferior players which, though not as good overall, serve the essential functions that we are just trying to express here.

  12. I don't understand why you would strip the ability to shuffle queues.  This is an essential function, and I would like it back.

    Is there a workaround, other than finding another music player?  On a trip or at an event, I want to be able, on the fly, to program a mix of albums, and when the wife or the kid or a friend wants to add an album to the mix, to add it without anyone's music playing to a conclusion before anyone else's.

    I used to be able to do this with ease.  It makes no logical sense whatsoever to take this function away.  Why?

    Along the same lines, GoneMad Music Player is pretty good.  Not as good as Poweramp used to be (and can be again if you stop making dumb changes), but good enough to make me consider leaving for good.

    The courtesy of a response is requested.

  13. 4 hours ago, andrewilley said:

    Tapping on a song title in the Library has always started playback, that's what is meant to happen, nothing has changed there since PA was first released.

    Pretty much the same goes for the shuffle modes, there have always been several options which you can cycle through by tapping the Shuffle icon on the player screen (some terminology has been updated,  but it still needs some tweaking IMHO). However starting shuffled playback from within a playlist (or album, folder, etc) should shuffle the contents of that list before moving on to any other content; it would not make sense for it to shuffle all songs at that point. Again, same general functionality as v2.

    Andre

    If that's the case, then the icons used to implement this should be corrected so that they are consistent and mean the same thing every time they appear in the program.

    As for being in a position to accidentally hit play almost everywhere in the program, if that's how its design I will live with it, but I do think that the program would make more intuitive sense if there was only one place where you could play music, and all paths from everywhere else in the program led to that place easily.

  14. 2 minutes ago, MeGustaPowerAmp said:

    Sorry man, I missed the playlist part... As far I knew, that button was an aleatory button... I'm pretty dumb xD

    Actually, your idea is quite good. 

    thanks for that

    .  come to think of it, once you hit either play or shuffle (preferably "shuffle this list") on the playlist screen, the main screen with the song playing should come up right away.

  15. 9 hours ago, andrewilley said:

    1. Not sure why this option has been removed, there used to be three options for when queued items would commence playlist (immediately; after current song; after current list) but now it's just an on/off toggle.

    2. Max has mentioned he is aware of this and has solved it in his next dev build.

    5. This is intended functionality, and has always been the case. Single tap to play a track, long-press for more options. Sorry you are in trouble with your wife though, perhaps headphones might be an idea when using a music player in bed next time? :)

    Andre

    Headphones are for when I actually want to listen to music, not for when I am fiddling with a buggy program with a confusing UI that used to be able to do what I want and doesn't any longer.

  16. 13 hours ago, MeGustaPowerAmp said:

     

    4. This is the “shuffle" button

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    This is the “repeat" button

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    Isn't that logical? 

    I think you missed the whole point I was trying to make.  I didn't mistake "repeat" for "shuffle."  Nothing in my post indicated any lack of understanding of the many (confusingly different) things the "shuffle" button does in different situations.  Please read again what I asked:

    •  When I load a playlist (which is often), or a queue, there are two buttons that will begin playing music:  one for play (a triangle) and one for shuffle (two arrows twisted together).  Elsewhere in Poweramp, the twisty arrows symbol means "shuffle all songs":  here it means something different.  Use a different symbol, and be consistent.  Worse, pushing that button defaults to "shuffle all songs and all lists."  Why is that the default?  I always choose "shuffle this [gosh darn] list".  Why won't Poweramp remember this choice?

    The question is about the difference between "shuffle" (the twisty arrows in the picture above), "shuffle all songs in a list" (the twisty arrows, with three small rectangles to the left), and "shuffle all songs and all lists" (the twisty arrows, with rectangles to the left, two rectangles underneath, and a wee small arrow at the bottom left).  in prior versions of Poweramp, the "shuffle" button you depict only meant one thing, and it meant the same thing in every situation in which it appeared:  shuffle every single song in the whole library, in my case, all 22,000.  Now, it only has that meaning on the main screen when playing a song.  When I load a queue, or a playlist, its meaning changes.  That is what is confusing.  

    Here is the screen that is the actual subject of my prior post:

     

     

     

     

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    this is the screen that comes up after I tap on a playlist.  You will see, under the name of the playlist (here "after hours"), the "shuffle" icon.  Here, it does not mean "shuffle every song in the whole damn library."  It means something else.  This is inconsistent and needs correcting.

    When I get to this screen what I want to do is shuffle the songs in the playlist I just selected.  I don't want to command Poweramp to shuffle all songs and all playlists, but that is what it does when I hit the "shuffle" icon.  That's bad on two counts:  the icon doesn't match the command, and the option I want isn't there.

    So I tap the mislabeled "shuffle" icon.  It gives me a "pop-up" to tell me that I have just told Poweramp to shuffle songs and categories, something that doesn't match the icon.  It plays a random song from the playlist (which is what I wanted to do).

    So I tap on the song, a (too) narrow horizontal band at the bottom.  (In the screenshot, it reads "The One I love").  It brings up the "main" screen, which now shows a different "shuffle" icon, the one for "shuffle songs and categories."  Note that I never told the program to make that choice.

    What I wanted was "shuffle just songs."  I have to tap twice more.  I shouldn't have to do that.

    In fact, that should be the option when you reach the screen depicted above, upon selecting a playlist or queue.  And I don't think it's too egotistical to say that it should be the default choice on that screen, and depicted with the correct icon.  Moreover the screen above should allow you to tap the "shuffle" icon repeatedly to get the option you want, just as Poweramp does elsewhere.

    Are we clear now?  Or are you  gonna send me another picture of the "repeat" icon?

  17. It's been a few days.   Frankly I'm finding more bugs than I ever expected when I first got the beta.  (I have 797).  I would love to know if they will be fixed.

    1.  I can't get the queue to start playing immediately after an album.  It sometimes plays after a single song, which is what the setting says is the default (it isn't), but this is inconsistent.  The folder setting is too obscure:  I don't know tech, but I know how to communicate in English, and this doesn't.  It says that turning it on will get rid of the default setting that moves to the queue after a single song.  It doesn't do that, and it is not clear what it is supposed to do.  I want to move from any completed list to the queue:  that was easy in the old version and completely unavailable in this one.

    2.  Sometimes when I'm playing an album, Poweramp just stops playing after one or two songs.  Why?

    3.  When it does this, it's sometimes associated with a song scrobbling to Last FM that I never played.  For example, I was playing Regina Carter, and Last FM told me I was scrobbling the Rolling Stones.  WTF?

    4.  When I load a playlist (which is often), or a queue, there are two buttons that will begin playing music:  one for play (a triangle) and one for shuffle (two arrows twisted together).  Elsewhere in Poweramp, the twisty arrows symbol means "shuffle all songs":  here it means something different.  Use a different symbol, and be consistent.  Worse, pushing that button defaults to "shuffle all songs and all lists."  Why is that the default?  I always choose "shuffle this [gosh darn] list".  Why won't Poweramp remember this choice?

    5.  When you touch a song on certain lists, it starts to play.  WTF?  ONLY the play button should start the music playing.  I woke up my wife at 3AM, and now I'm in big trouble and it's your fault.

    I thought I'd get more and more used to the upgrade.  Instead, I like it less and less, the more I use it.

  18. 16 hours ago, pauldamo said:

    have you tried the skins that you can install from this forum? you can have the album info below artwork plus other options.

    Got the free skin.  It's nice, but it doesn't solve the clutter problem, the buttons too big problem, the ugly problem, or other confusing aspects of the UI.  I don't think a skin necessarily can:  if Max says something will be on screen and not a menu, or that the "shuffle all songs" icon will sometimes mean "shuffle only this list," my understanding is that the skin will agree with him.  

  19. I like the visualizations, but not all the time.  The old UI was clunky, and I don't think the new one is much better, but the new one is here to stay, so I don't think the comparisons are useful.  Better to improve the new one.  There needs to be an option to declutter and simplify, to just see the album art, play, stop, go back, go next, and nothing else (with everything else set someplace else).  (Car mode anybody?)  There needs to be a way to set the amount of time the main screen lingers before fading to visualization.  The main screen really needs to declutter:  the old one was better in that sense.  I mean,, for example, why in the world would "44.1KHZ 128KBPS MP3" be on the MAIN screen?  Why would the play button be so large:  am I really going to have to search for it if it were a little smaller?  What's wrong with some buttons bringing up menus (e.g a visualization menu) and others not?  Why would the lock menu be separate from the rest of the visualization menu?

  20. I don't use ratings.  I'm a bit of a Luddite:  I suspect, rightly or wrongly, that rating something will affect whether it's given equal treatment by the randomizer.  What I'd really like is to be assured that when I hit "shuffle" each song in the queue has exactly an equal chance of being played, and that anything played once will not be repeated.  I have my suspicions about this in version 2, and hope, in version 3, that no matter how many times I play something, or how high I rate it, it won't be played in "shuffle" more often than any other song.

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