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  1. Well, I can, and it doesn't work so I really don't know what to do here other than bother you.
    Tone low sounds extremely low on Poweramp and not at the same volume of the other tracks. It sounds alright on foobar2000 and GoneMAD. The problem is Poweramp.

    ReplayGain is on and set to track. Tone high Opus sounds loud and Tone low Opus sounds low. Something is wrong here.

    Any help?

    EDIT: I know Tone high sounds the same volume. The problem is Tone low.

    EDIT 2: I got the test files on another phone. I can reproduce.

    Set Replaygain to on, no clipping protection, source track.

    Expected: All test files should sound equally loud
    Behaviour: Tone low Opus sounds extremely low.

    Phone 1: Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015). Modified with unofficial Bliss ROM.
    Phone 2: Nokia 1, Android 9. Stock ROM (unmodified).

    Both phones with latest Poweramp.

  2. 32 minutes ago, maxmp said:

    as you're using album gain and Poweramp doesn't support album gain for opus, you get different results

    I'm using track gain. I don't need album gain as much as I can just adjust the volume at the start of the album, but when I'm listening on shuffle the faulty track gain doesn't help me and tracks usually play too loud or too low, even with ReplayGain on.

  3. ReplayGain is on, no clipping protection, source is track, but hear me out.

    The behaviour I expect is for Opus files to sound equally loud to each other when ReplayGain is on and set to track. Poweramp doesn't achieve this. The Opus files have different loudness on playback.

    With Ogg and FLAC it works alright. The problem is Opus, which uses R128Gain; Poweramp applies gain, but it's not enough! And with a noise track or a simple tone this is very obvious.

  4. 1 minute ago, maxmp said:

    @null With these 2 files provided (Replay Gain enabled in Poweramp Replay Gain settings) the difference in volume is the same as in Foobar2000. Did you mean some other test tracks?

    I provided four files but the forum thinks the OGGs are video. Making new samples right now and will upload them as a Zip. 2 FLAC, 2 Ogg and 2 Opus, a single 440hz sine wave, directly exported from Audacity, two different volumes.

  5. I didn't upload any FLACs though.

    Anyways, does VLC even support R128Gain? I trust foobar2000 more than VLC.

    FWIW, GoneMAD plays both pairs at very different loudness with RG off. But when it's on, all files sound the same.

    EDIT: I can't get replaygain to work on VLC. Not even with my FLACs. All my music has replaygain. Maybe I'm missing a package...

  6. Noise high: 5dB
    Noise high vorbis: -16,6dB
    Noise low: 29,09dB
    Noise low vorbis: 7,48dB

    EDIT: I uploaded Ogg files but the forum software recognized it as video.
    EDIT 2: I downloaded GoneMAD and it applies the gain correctly. It's definitely a Poweramp issue.

  7. @maxmp I just know that ReplayGain and R128Gain on these sample files work fine on foobar2000. They all sound the same volume.

    It's Poweramp that has these issues. Both Noise high on Opus and Vorbis sound equally loud on foobar2000, same for both Noise low. And when gain is applied, all files sound equally loud.

    Poweramp plays all four files at different loudness whether ReplayGain is on or off. At the very least it should play both Noise low equally quiet and both Noise high equally loud.

    What other app can I use to calculate R128Gain tags?

    @andrewilley No, I specifically made sure none of my files had ReplayGain tags. See sample files.

  8. Just a question, does R128Gain work on Opus files? I try playing files on Poweramp with ReplayGain on and off and there is a difference - but it's not enough for them to be the same loudness.

    I add the R128 tags on foobar2000. Yes, foobar it says it's ReplayGain but for Opus files it does R128 instead. And I checked with Kid3, the tags are there. Poweramp shows them too, when you look at the track info.

    Any help?

  9. On 5/29/2020 at 10:38 AM, MotleyG said:

    I have no desire to have PA edit or manage this content specifically for the reasons @maxmp mentions. If this is changed, please make sure it is optional and defeatable.

    This 100%. I don't want Poweramp touching my metadata unless given explicit permission. Using it is encouraged, modifying it is not something I ever want. So it should be optional and by default disabled if such a feature ever comes.

  10. Just now, Absinthequ said:

    I would say it could be the types of phones you may be using may not have the memory to run a large scan.

    My moto e⁵ can most definitely do the scan.

     

    Anyways Max helped me. The SD card was faulty, I checked with my PC. It's good to know that SD cards can do that. to a phone when they're old.

  11. @MotleyG  I'm asking for artwork that displays only on the list of albums in the library (from cover.jpg, like in the days of v2), plus per-track artwork like it is displaying now. Right now when there is per-track artwork, PA chooses a random track and applies that track's embedded cover to the album list. Am I clear? I feel like I have to draw a diagram here e.e

    Anyways I can't show pictures because PA can't even finish scanning and it's driving me up the walls... I'm going to make a forum post now...

    EDIT: I'm not sure if I sound passive-aggressive here but that's not my intention. I thank you for just replying and acknowledging my problems instead of claiming my tagging is what's causing it and that there's no possible solution. Yes that is me being a little passive aggressive, but not to you, or Max.

  12. 32 minutes ago, MotleyG said:

    Often inside the front cover for what would be "side A" tracks and the back cover for "side B" and they all.show as expected when playing.

    "when playing"

    Not what I'm asking for bud. Please read the thread again.

    32 minutes ago, MotleyG said:

    I'm at 25,000+ tracks mixed with mp3, FLAC, and ALAC. Never had the app or scanner crash.

    You could have 100,000+ for all I care. Still, well, it does crash for me. On two phones I have, even. I just did a factory reset on my main phone too. Still doesn't work. I would expect my Nokia 1 to have trouble with my library but not outright crash if I leave the app. Also, I don't expect my Moto E⁵ to crash at all; yet it does, it hogs all resources and locks up my phone, then if I leave the app it is killed, and then it starts scanning again!!! That can only mean it does no checkpoints and that is not good when it has to start again and takes like forty minutes everytime.

    Anyways, I'll try again in a little while. Maybe it only happens on the latest version only because this wasn't how it worked before.

  13. Look, I know that it's possible. But just say that you agree with me that being able to use cover.jpg would make your life easier. Because it would, and maybe Max will listen!

    I'm not doing that more than three times on my music library though. Too much work.

    Anyways I'm not using Poweramp anymore because the scanner either crashes the phone or crashes itself from analysing 10000 tracks. Please fix your app Max. Forum post coming soon

  14. *cries internally*

    I don't know that I wanted to know that information. I guess you're right though, that is technically possible.

    It isn't a good workaround when you must do it manually several times though.

    @maxmp please listen to my cries of help. Even though I really don't *need* this particular feature, this is the kind of feature that made me buy the app in the first place!

  15. 1 hour ago, andrewilley said:

    I don't recall it working like that on v2 for Albums (only for Folders) but maybe it did, applying folder.jpg/cover.org/etc to all viewing formats for any files that happen to be contained in that folder

    I didn't read this. Yeah it used to work like this, there used to be an options in the cover options that allowed to always apply cover.jpg to the library view, and the library view only!

  16. @andrewilley Yeah well, those people tend to not download whole albums. And anyway, having this function as an optional setting like it used to be wouldn't affect them anyway.

     

    Also I doubt those people would buy Poweramp anyway

    EDIT: by the way, having to do a full rescan everytime I add a cover.jpg to my phone is too time-consuming considering it takes like forty minutes (I think. I haven't counted it) and it consumes so many resources that it almost crashes my phone, and if I do anything else on it Poweramp crashes and I have to do it again. Hardly practical at all, even for folder view.

  17. 9 hours ago, andrewilley said:

    As far as the Album list using cover.jpg images though, that won't happen.

    Why though, it worked perfectly well back in v2 so why not now? I do agree that folder trees are completely arbitrary but everyone puts albums on a single folder when they have lots of them, and you can't tell me otherwise.

  18. 3 hours ago, andrewilley said:

    folder.jpg/cover.jpg/etc are still supported - they are technically per folder though, not per album. Make sure that Settings > Album Art > Prefer Downloaded Album Art is not ticked. 

    I unticked it and deleted the cache, it doesn't work for neither the album view nor the folder view. Both views chose the fifth (?) cover for displaying as the album cover. I don't even know.

    @maxmp is this actually supported in Poweramp? I'm having doubts.

     

    EDIT:
    Actually I don't think I'm being understood.


    My phone's folders: 
    > Music
    >> (a folder for each album artist)
    >>> (a folder for each album)
    >>>> (every track on the album, track artwork embedded when available)
    >>>> cover.jpg (for representing the whole album)

    Expected behaviour:
    On album list: Display cover.jpg
    On folder view: Display cover.jpg
    On album tracklist: Display embedded artwork for every track
    On main screen: Display embedded artwork for current playing track

    Current behaviour:
    On album list: Displays a random track's embedded artwork (I don't know how this is selected)
    On folder view: Displays a random track's embedded artwork (again, I don't know how this is selected)
    On album tracklist: Displays embedded artwork for every track (correct)
    On main screen: Displays embedded artwork for current playing track (correct)

    I'm not asking for much here. This used to be an option that you had to enable. I don't understand why it was removed.

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