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  1. From my years of experience with android and knowing samsung pretty well - no, they will not. Most likely for the next android version next year. The only hope is max to find a better workaround, but he is really limited to what he can do from the sound subsystem samsung implemented. There is no possible way to literally bypass everything and "talk" directly with the DAC. Same way as you can't play a sound via windows app from the soundcard without a proper driver (for simple analogy).
  2. I always wondered myself for years why google decided to go that way. You reasoning seems plausible. Anyway, for the people that want the closest thing to not resampled sound on samsung android 9 - Poweramp+hi-res+24bit/88kHz(176.4,352.8), i.e. perfect rounding X2 44.1kHz. This should lead to a pretty close result. Also you can check out the default resampler as there are two options(sw, sox - the latter is famous one for really high quality). Edit: actually no matter what you set beyond 48kHz, only 192kHz and 384kHz are actually used. I really think that samsung outdid themself on that android version.
  3. Uncommon for android. Stock google's android also upsamples to 48kHz, otherwise we all (atleast most of us) know that most mp3 files are @ 44.1kHz. Samsung in the past did implement native 44.1kHz playback when such a file is played, sadly that is removed now and that's what we discussed with max.
  4. The DAC/audio circuit used in the exynos surely is, pretty sure that the one in the sd845 is also capable or any decent DAC for that manner. Also it's true that the S7/s7e (have it too) was playing natively 44.1kHz files without any resampling... another great idea from them that was killed. Thanks for the answer, it's informative.
  5. I see, so there is currently no way for me to play hi-res 24bit/44.1kHz (as that will lead to either opensl output or 16bit/48kHz)? Actually you are correct, if I select "no dvc" and put a frequency about 48kHz (88-384kHz), it plays at 24bit/88kHz-384kHz+it seems equalizer/dolby doesn't affect the sound. Sadly, I liked to listen my music without a resampler and as for now there is no option to play 24bit/44.1kHz or for that manner even 48kHz. Thanks for the direction how to mitigate the problem as I prefer your player @ 24bit/384kHz and no DVC vs what samsung provides me with out of the box. Not because their offering is that bad when configured, but because yours is far superior. side note: before the max was 192kHz, 384kHz is the correct max one for that DAC tho - nice on that one. Also to comment on the samsung android 9 - it's rushed and that's super funny when we consider how many months it took them + the beta. There are a lot of other problems too and on top of that it's missing crucial features that they market with the note 9 (like the greatly improved multiwindow/multitasking functionality over google's stock android - now dead, removed from the ROM. ). So I am not surprised in the slightest that this is caused by them. Hope they fixed it in the future (highly unlikely) or atleast you find a way to workaround the problem better in the future.
  6. For me when I turn it off the output is instantly switched over to the opensl es output (active) even tho it doesn't even switch off the hi-res output ON switch in the selection (wired/bluetooth/etc), but inside of hi-res wired there is no info for current frequency/bit rate as it's not really playing via it as stated at the start (active is opensl es). With dvc on I only get 16/48kHz that cannot be changed no matter what I try (turning on/off, changing settings, restore defaults, etc.). So for the exynos note 9 this is not working and I can't get any hi-res output sound (the 16/48kHz is also clearly processed by samsung audio software as all the equalizer settings and dolby - changes the sound).
  7. I already posted in other thread, the sound is broken for note 9 too. Will quite myself: " @maxmp @andrewilley The new version doesn't fix the note 9 @ android pie. The wired hi-res output is playing at 16bit/48kHz no matter what I do, if I turn off DVC it will auto switch to the normal audio output even when hi-res is selected and staying selected but not active, if I change the frequency to 44kHz or up it will also not change anything on the output and stay at 16bit/48kHz (and as I said, DVC off means directly switching to the standard output, as in the changelog is stated that DVC should be off for up than 48kHz. I am listening to 44kHz normally tho), dolby on/off is changing the sound too as before - no matter if it's the standard output or the hi-res @ 16bit/48kHz. That should be all, if you need more info I will gladly provide it. The phone is stock exynos note 9."
  8. @maxmp @andrewilley The new version doesn't fix the note 9 @ android pie. The wired hi-res output is playing at 16bit/48kHz no matter what I do, if I turn off DVC it will auto switch to the normal audio output even when hi-res is selected and staying selected but not active, if I change the frequency to 44kHz or up it will also not change anything on the output and stay at 16bit/48kHz (and as I said, DVC off means directly switching to the standard output, as in the changelog is stated that DVC should be off for up than 48kHz. I am listening to 44kHz normally tho), dolby on/off is changing the sound too as before - no matter if it's the standard output or the hi-res @ 16bit/48kHz. That should be all, if you need more info I will gladly provide it. The phone is stock exynos note 9.
  9. but no DVC for wired headset and if you read more about it, this is not only about how loud the player is... so it's still partial solution.
  10. Without being disrespectful, but most of us paid for the powermap, because of the hi-res support (even tho I had the choice to not pay for, so this goes to show how much I value max work after the extended test of the Poweramp player). I don't even use resampler to go up to 192kHz, I am playing at 24bit/44kHz and 32bit off+no equ (as most of my files are at 44, i.e. try to go natively). The sound difference vs the standard output from Poweramp settings and the default native samsung playback is really that big to the point that I can't really enjoy my music that much (keep in mind that I have high quality headphones to pair with the exynos note 9). I know it's experimental, not promised and all of this, I just say how the reality goes.. the UI is great, but not the point of that player historically. Guess how I bumped to Poweramp in the first place and what I was searching for the player to do. That said, we are talking about one of the most sold phone series in the world support, not some Chinese 2 people using them phones. So it's kinda in the middle, from one side you are right, from our (my) side, I payed for the player only because of that hi-res capabilities. You can argue that no promise is made for the next android version (and the experimental status is inline with that), but imagine every application that is paid to start to do just that and stop working for any new android version - games, applications that costs money. This will be not good at all, wouldn't it? Reverting whole OS update just for a music player to work is also kinda... strange advice tbh and for so many reasons that I wont even start to list them. Best Regards,
  11. DVC off helps with the sound volume, but the audio quality is still bad + affected from the samsung processing. If I for example turn off the dolby atmost the sound changes as it's turned off, if then I turn it on - it changes back. Same with equaliser settings. This didn't happen in the android 8, the Poweramp had full control and no samsung processing + the best sound. Right now even with DVC off and all samsung processing manually off - the sound is underwhelming even vs the stock player. Just to give you and max more info as the only problem is not the volume, atleast on my stock android 9 exynos note 9.
  12. I have also reported the issue week ago. He said there is no problem on his s9+ pie and after that as I predicted, the reports started to roll in after more people updated. I am on note 9 exynos and for me hi-res is shown, but it's pure garb*ge sound wise + clearly going via samsung processing and sound is affected from things in the samsung equaliser or dolby on/off, etc (but also regressing audio quality really greatly, it's far worse than the stock player and low volume generally). I guess till now he knows about the problem and is developing a fix, sometimes it's not easy to pinpoint the issue + implement a fix. Especially when we consider that the broken effect to note and s9+ are different (for me it's shown, but the sound quality is super bad. For you it's not shown, etc.). Lets be patient, I am sure he will fix it asap.
  13. For me it still says "Samsung UHQA PCM" , but sadly the sound is broken + clearly going via the samsung processing.
  14. Something that maybe would be helpful: note 9 has "dolby atmos for gaming" that is missing from the s9/s9+ phones, so it's really true that in android pie there is a difference to the sound part of note9 and s9/s9+. Dunno about others complains, I just say what I can to give you more information about what can potentially be the reason for the sound problem. Kinda sad as the Poweramp @ hi-res 24bit/44KHz without equ is really producing a lot better sound vs any settings I can put for the stock player (that is play music blah) + the overall UI is more than great... one of the few apps that I really pay for with a smile. Hope you can track down the reasoning for the bad sound output affected by system settings that it should (and before it did) bypass, I really do. Cheers and thanks for the great player!
  15. Thanks for replying. Then samsung did something different to the note 9 android 9. I am testing wired headphones + reset fully the app + tried firstly your advice. The audio even with dvc on is affected by dolby atmost on/off, literally the effect is applied + the volume is low and bad quality. If I can help you any further - will do gladly, otherwise you can get your hands on note 9 on pie to check it out or wait for further feedback as the rollout is just starting + note 9 exynos Poweramp users are not that much in the numbers, so it will take some time for the reporting. P.S. I am tech heavy person, and also on top of that rooting + customizing android phones for like 10+ years, I am sure I am not doing some lame things leading to my OS problems with Poweramp's hifi output. That note 9 is full stock tho, so it's not my doing for sure.
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