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11 hours ago, maxmp said:
@fr0stsilver update may change some options to defaults on some devices if it's known that:
- option won't work properly on those firmwares/device
- options may not make sense anymore
- option is changed a lot.That makes sense. Though, it's an option that I still use a lot. I wish I could use it until it doesn't work anymore...
Also when enabling this option, is it possible to at least pause the music for a moment? That would make my ears much easier 😁
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@andrewilley It is a regular recurring issue because I have to manually re-enable the setting each time when Poweramp is updated. It wasn't saved for some reason.
On 8/27/2023 at 4:40 AM, maxmp said:on MIUI firmwares you usually already have like 64 to 150+ volume levels by default
@maxmp Yes that's true, but it's too many for me, so that's why I set Custom Volume Levels to 30. Also, I believe this bug can be easily workaround by pausing the music for a moment when enabling this option.
p.s. I've got my exported settings attached here. (Remember Custom Volume Level is likely not saved due to the update bug I've talked about.)
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8 hours ago, andrewilley said:
The Volume Levels feature is not guaranteed to work on all devices/ROMs, see the followup notes in the Settings=>Audio=>Advanced Tweaks page. I would suggest turning it off (set it to System Default) if it is causing you problems.
Andre
I need to mention the volume bug only happens when the music is playing and at the same time enabling custom volume levels.
As you said the culprit is probably MIUI's smoothing effect when adjusting system volume. (Probably because Poweramp started playing sound before the smoothing effect finishes, meaning the volume stayed high for a sec.)
Would you please make Poweramp to pause the music for a sec when enabling this option? Also, I frequently change this setting because of the other bug: This setting resets after each update of Poweramp.
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Anyone interested in this topic? The max volume bug still exists in build 974. However, I need time to further confirm if custom volume levels is saved or not when installing newer versions.
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I believe that's a buffer problem, or your DAC's broken. Try setting the buffer to very large or larger see if it fixes.
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Advanced Tweaks -> Volume Levels resets after each update.
Also, changing that option will likely cause temporary max volume, blow my ears up.
Otherwise works well
App ver: build-973-bundle-play
Model: Xiaomi 12S Ultra
Android ver: 13
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Somehow I now couldn't reproduce the distorted sound part. Though the constrained audio pipeline is still there with AAudio output. I hope we could get full 24bit support.
Update:
Although constrained audio pipeline still exists with AAudio, Hi-res support for MIUI had improved (added AUX Out, in October). I'd say the sound does feel a bit more detailed and is smoother to my feeling.
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I think I've got a different but similar issue:
20 minutes ago, Silverfrost said:Also, if you turn on "Float32 Sample Format" in either AudioTrack or OpenSL ES Output, you get very significant distorted sound when the music gets loud.
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Poweramp build number: build-943-bundle-play
Device model: Mi 12S Ultra
Android version: 12
Custom ROM name/version: MIUI 13.0.8.0(SLACNXM)
Steps to reproduce: Select AAudio as output and play a music file. You see a constrained audio pipeline like this:
Also, if you turn on "Float32 Sample Format" in either AudioTrack or OpenSL ES Output, you get very significant distorted sound when the music gets loud.
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Here's an update:
- This issue still persists within the latest version (build-943-bundle-play)
- -12dB didn't help fixing the issue
Is there anyone else experiencing the same issue?
Another update:
Since the update of improved Hi-res support for MIUI (added AUX Out, in October), I switched to that and never experienced this issue again.
I did try to switch back to AAudio for a minute and have not yet experienced this issue. But don't take my word for it because I literally only listened for a minute or two.
More updates:
I've listened ~5min with AAudio and found the volume still dips/increases after a minute or two. Seems like this issue is not yet fixed at least with AAudio.
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2 hours ago, andrewilley said:
I would try with everything flat (all EQ and Tone turned off, ReplayGain turned off, etc).
Yes. That's exactly what I did.
@MotleyG Because that makes pa play the default sound which every other player makes, it shouldn't perform much different from the other players. (Though apparently it did.)
I'll probably backup and try Flat -12dB tonight. Though I think all it does is probably making me harder to notice the volume dip/increases since this will drop the overall perceived volume by quite a bit.
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2 hours ago, MotleyG said:
do they still show the same behaviour?
Yes. I have already confirmed the issue still persists even after clearing & resetting Poweramp. The following quote was about switches I've tried during the factory reset.
15 hours ago, Silverfrost said:I also tried switching on "No Equ/Tone", "No DVC", "No Duck", "No Headroom Gain" and tried all 3 native outputs as well as switching off "Enable Direct Volume Control" on the dedicated DVC page, but am still getting the volume dips/increases.
Btw, I don't think +12dB will trigger any kind of protection since I only put at max 20% system volume on my device, while also having DVC turned on to prevent clipping.
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Andrew, I appreciate your help here!
On 9/6/2022 at 10:29 PM, andrewilley said:Hi-res is supported on Android 12
Yes but not completely. I got 192kHz output working but stuck at 16bit. On the previous Android versions (specifically Android 9) I could get 192kHz/24bit to work.
On 9/6/2022 at 10:29 PM, andrewilley said:For volume, have you got the Limiter function enabled in the EQ screen?
I have not turned on the Limiter. I also tried switching on "No Equ/Tone", "No DVC", "No Duck", "No Headroom Gain" and tried all 3 native outputs as well as switching off "Enable Direct Volume Control" on the dedicated DVC page, but am still getting the volume dips/increases. Also, I've got "Smooth Equalizer/Tone Gains" turned off even during normal usage.
The volume dips/increases are not temporary (or are said to be less than 1 second). It persists for ~10-30 seconds before the next change. Each change has a soft stepping (either the effect from system or Poweramp itself) and the volume will be overall louder/weaker after the change.
I have also tried to increase buffer size to large though I don't think that's the problem. Since if buffer is too small, the music will sound stuttering and hitching. However, for this case that is not what I heard before so it shouldn't be the culprit.
Hence, I suspect it's something to do with Poweramp's volume control. I also tried other players, i.e. MiXplorer's built-in audio player and YouTube, but found no such issue.
Attached images are some more info on the audio.
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Checkout the attatched archieve. It contains:
- a logcat captured when the bug happened
- a spectrogram/explanation video at the same time when the bug happened
- a music file used recreate the bug
- a note on what time (internet time) the bug happened
Timestamp & clock is shown in the video. Tell me if you need anything more. Also, please consider adding hi-res support for Android 12 like what we had in Android 9.
Poweramp build number: build-941-bundle-play
Device model: Mi 12S Ultra
Android version: 12
Custom ROM name/version: MIUI 13.0.8.0(SLACNXM)
Steps to reproduce: Clean install of Poweramp, play a song (particularly with medium to large volume difference in different parts of the song) and listen for the volume changes that shouldn't be there. -
@maxmp An additional idea based on this topic: A selector utilizing the filtering features we've talked about here, which allows us to select and move around large number of songs easily.
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One more thing is that sometimes the preset assign interface will show 2 bluetooth devices with identical names, particularly at the time when the bluetooth device is connected. Though, there's only one connected device in the bluetooth pairing list. The devices has encountered this issue are my JBL Flip 3 speaker, Philips Home Theater and a generic aptx bluetooth receiver. Not sure if this is also to do with my phone or not.
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Poweramp build: build-905-arm64-play
Device model: Xiaomi 6
Android version: 9
Custom ROM: MIUI 10 9.8.1I've noticed this issue several months and today I'm finally reporting it.
As the title describes, tapping on the equalizer preset switcher only locates to the top of the preset list instead of locating to the current active preset, which was working in the past. This issue also persists whether you short press, long press or invoking the quick preset switcher (by long pressing the equalizer button on the bottom bar).
At the same time, I've noticed when saving a new equalizer preset will cause itself being separated from the old presets, and being pinned at the top of the list. This issue had happened several times already, mostly after new builds of Poweramp are released. A workaround as a feature request is by adding a button to sort the equalizer preset list. That would make my life, while updating my old presets, much easier.
Thanks!
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3 hours ago, andrewilley said:
I was suggesting the idea of adding more criteria beyond simple text strings into the existing category search feature
Yes, that is what I meant. I didn't fully understand what "List Options" exactly do. However, it looks very similar to the idea of filtering and matching criterias.
In fact, the concept design image is made based on the screenshot of "List Options".
Hope this will bring some inspiration.
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19 minutes ago, andrewilley said:
make more sense to put any extra options into the already-existing Search feature at the top of each list
That's right. I think the current "List Option" is quite confusing and unusable. I think changing it to "Filter" will be more intuitive for most people.
And I also think it is more powerful.
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I will be amazed if I see this to be implemented.
Concept design for "Advanced Search Filter"
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Note:
1. New filter button beside the start playing button.
2. Rules that will filter the current search result based on them.
3. This design should be implemented in all folder-like structures (e.g. Folders, Playlists) for the most consistent searching experience.
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There are also cases where I'd like to filter tracks inside a folder or a playlist. That said, the filter tool should also exist inside Playlists or any folder-like structures.
The tool should only show any filtered result instead of modifying anything. Hence, we can use features such as "Select All" to easily select them.
BTW, the search tool should also be added inside any folder-like structures for further filtering.
(All talks are based on the concept of having hundreds of items needed to be selected.)
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2 hours ago, andrewilley said:
Each library category in Poweramp has its own independently set sorting method. which control how the contents should be viewed and played For example, in Folders mode you could have the songs sorted by Rating (in either forward or reverse order) by tapping the three-dots menu icon and selecting List Options. You can't filter to see ONLY see one particular rating though, it would just change which ones you see/hear first.
If you want to apply this logic to your entire music collection, use the All Songs category and do the same thing there.
Playlists are slightly different in that they are a created list of song titles that already have their own pre-defined playback order. You can re-sort that order for a specific playlist though, by using the same three-dots menu inside the playlist and choosing Re-sort.
Andre
Adding filter will make life easier on arranging tracks.
e.g. Selecting and adding all 5 starred tracks from a folder with 2000 of them to a dedicated playlist.
It doesn't have to modify the list. It's all about filtering and selecting, which can make my life easier on managing, for example, rated songs and unheard songs.
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@andrewilley Should I rephrase a new thread for this?
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On 7/21/2020 at 3:40 AM, andrewilley said:
Do you actually mean inside Playlists here? As in the Library category called Playlists where you see previously created ordered lists of songs?
Andre
No. I meant a filter inside any Playlist or Folder.
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Setting resets after each update / Max volume after changing options
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It's probably because as max said:
Custom volume levels is a potentially non-working setting as the attached screenshot shows, so it could be reset to default when updating.
However, I do wish the automatic reset removed so the feature becomes usable for everyone who's still using it.