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  1. Hi

    Early testing is looking good with my gapless issues - brilliant - more testing when I'm back at work and using it all day.

    One other issue - the small "What's Playing" thing on this screen, occasionally shows a totally wrong track - see below- the FLC Track shown wasn't what was playing and hasn't been played for some time!

     

     Screenshot_20181228-100633.thumb.png.636637c070c10453aba2940c3dc6a05f.png

     

    Screenshot_20181228-100652.thumb.png.6c66999c9153ce33f9dda27276b5a5c1.png

     

    Not a huge issue at all really now that the gapless issue seems to have been sorted

     

    Many thanks - I'll report back only if gapless issues reappear on further testing!

  2. Back to Gapless - I did what I did on the last release, and got the same, initial, results - perfect playback on music I've not played in a while.  But occasionally a small glitch.  I'l know more when I;m back at work and listening to it all day

  3. 2 hours ago, musiclover said:

    For what it's worth, I too do not have problems with gapless playback. All my music library is on the SD card. I use a LG G6 with a Sandisk Extreme Pro 32GB 100MB/s read nominal. Read benchmark values 86.2MB/s with A1 SD Bench.

    Just benchmarked my storage. 

    Screenshot_20181130-172526.png

  4. 38 minutes ago, Mr. Make Believe said:

    Nope, not forever. Once it's cached/buffered it plays fine. I think that once a track is cleared from chache/buffer the gap is back. Maybe the solution can be found in Poweramp preloading the following track, before it starts to play. Or we have to upgrade phones/SD cards, since I do believe it's because of the cards speedlimit.

    But my card works fine in an older phone.

  5. 14 hours ago, Mr. Make Believe said:

    @maxmp The results are in. I just can't get Poweramp to play perfect gapless. Check the attached video. This happens on any output with a huge buffer when Mp3 is played for the first time from SD. The second play it runs fine. At the end of the video you see the gapless tag.

    For you, does it remain gapless after the first play for ever?  For me eventually it will get a gap again (Ithink - more testing on that)- I know Max has said PA doesn't cache stuff, but presumably the OS does at some level?

  6. 18 minutes ago, maxmp said:

    Unfortunately I can't reproduce the gaps on my gapless test files. Can you please PM me couple of such files which fail for you?

    Do you compare it vs Poweramp v2? v2 has slightly worse gapless tags support, but v2 also has a silence detector, which may smooth gapless in non-gapless tracks better. v3 does this only for tracks actually tagged as gapless.

    I'll sort some files out later - but I've been using v2 for many, many years without an issue, on a lot of phones - going back to Moto Defy, and most of my music has remained in the same format.

    As it works fine if on internal memory, I'm not sure you'll be able to reproduce, but I'll send anyway!

    Tried to PM you but "!maxmp cannot receive messages."

  7. 1 hour ago, Mr. Make Believe said:

    It's on Max's todo list. As long as it isn't mentioned as a solved problem in the changelog I'm sure it stays on the todo list untill it's solved.

    I jus thope it's somewhere on top of the list and not on the bottom. It's the only thing that really bugs me when using Poweamp. 

    The thing is - when I tested it first thing this morning, it seemed fine - I tested with some CDs I've not played for ages on the phone speaker. But that may have been a limitation of the phone speaker.

    And I am pretty sure the gaps are smaller

  8. 4 hours ago, Mr. Make Believe said:

     

    .... Black Player was ok, but I read after the last update folder view doesn't behave as it should anymore. Haven't tested it, but I'm a folder view user.

     

    Correction - Black Player has a few issues - just listening to Misplaced Childhood - very few gaps in original - and once in whole CD there was a noticeable gap.

    It'll be a bugger to track down - this bug seems to be device related - but not totally 

  9. On 11/12/2018 at 6:56 PM, eserim said:

    OK more testing on the gapless issue.

    I really don't think it can be SD card speed.

    My phone is a Moto G5 - and it has gapless issues (thread refers to G5 Plus, but it looks like it is a common issue with G5 as well)

    I have used the latest release on my music in my G5 and it doesn't play gapless.

    Using my 2015 Samsung A3 - so a less powerful device, with the same card and everything is fine.

    Back to the Moto. Using PA v2x  - everything is fine.

    Using GMMP v2 and alpha 3 and everything is fine

    Most other music players are crap - see link above.

    Edit - Black Player works with gapless without an issue as well.  Adding to the the list of working software on my device.

  10. OK more testing on the gapless issue.

    I really don't think it can be SD card speed.

    My phone is a Moto G5 - and it has gapless issues (thread refers to G5 Plus, but it looks like it is a common issue with G5 as well)

    I have used the latest release on my music in my G5 and it doesn't play gapless.

    Using my 2015 Samsung A3 - so a less powerful device, with the same card and everything is fine.

    Back to the Moto. Using PA v2x  - everything is fine.

    Using GMMP v2 and alpha 3 and everything is fine

    Most other music players are crap - see link above.

  11. 3 minutes ago, djdarko said:

    Out of curiosity does the iPod play mp3s gapless?

    These days, yes, no problem, the very early models had issues, but I had a Nano that was fine and our old touch is Ok - I think - I rarely use it and memory is fading with age but I doubt if I'd swapped my old Rio Karma* for the Nano if it didn't work.

     

    *out of curiosity I just looked at eBay for Rio Karmas and found one that was described as "Vintage Retro" now I am feeling old

  12. 1 hour ago, djdarko said:

    Oh dang, the OGG files won't play gapless? I'll test some different formats here and see which if any play correctly.

    Sorry, I couldn't recall what formats I had tested, so checked again this morning and found a nice Live LP (Black Sabbath Live Evil) so lots of noise between tracks, and it was ogg and with gaps. 

    It all depends on my chances of playing MY music in MY car with MY family - if I think I have a chance then it has to be MP3 as we've an old iPod in there.  Otherwise I go ogg vorbis.

  13. 5 hours ago, djdarko said:

    Hopefully Max will re-implement the "cut silence" feature. But, in the meantime if you have the means, I would suggest to either re-encode your favorite albums to a true gapless format (ogg, opus, flac etc.) or encode to Single File + CUE.   I speak from experience after re-encoding 1000+ albums after I realized that AAC isn't true gapless.

    Alas, as I did say earlier (I think) Ogg Vorbis has been my format of choice for some time, and it makes no difference.

  14. 5 hours ago, Kingog said:

    This sums it up for me, too.  Is V3 somehow not compatible with the 'cut silence' feature?  There is no way I will re-encode most of my albums to accommodate for V3 that no longer supports a gapless playback experience.

    I'm afraid it is a feature whose absence means I may have to move.  I know improvements have been promised, but back when I first bought PA, it was one of the few, maybe only, that offered true gapless.

    Now, alas as my phone seems to have "issues" with lots of other players that say they do, I'm left with either PA2 (still very good) or GMMP - v3 is in Alpha and looks very nice.  So it is a bit of a race to see which player I will finally end up as my daily player.

  15. 3 minutes ago, Mr. Make Believe said:

    Yeah, I did read your post. Interesting stuff and i hope @maxmp will look into this and I sure hope that will fix things. I reported on the fact that once the files have been loaded once, during the second play, they play gapless. Every first run, different buffer settings don't change this, the files don't play gapless when played from SD though. 

    Still that doesn't change the fact that Poweramp is capable of playing these files gapless, since it does so when the same files are played from the internal memory instead of SD and the fact that using different software results in the songs being played gapless on the first run from SD.

    The question is, what's the difference between these files enoded with different sofware, but the same codec and why does Poweramp behaves different when reading from internal memory instead of external memory.

     

    Maybe on internal the gap is there, but the speed makes it not noticable - we only see it on slower cards, and then only the first time, when the database hasn't got the gapless tag.  After that the engine does whatever it needs to do and it works

  16. Sorry double posted - too many tabs open.  Anyway here's some before/after images.  The first image is a track I've not played in PA - the second is the same track as soon as I play it.  Notice the "gapless" tag is now showing

    Screenshot_20181022-134444.png

    Screenshot_20181022-134502.png

     

    (sorry for the white dots, that's not PA, I have touches show up on the screen and the three finger touch is shortcut for screenshot)

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