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  1. Android Auto is 100% up to date (I install it in the first video). Google Play Music is also 100% up to date. I only did not update Google Maps and the Google app after I did the factory reset. The reason is as soon as I update the Google app, voice commands stop working! Currently I have the navigation voice commands working, but not the music voice commands. So I'm half way to winning! If I update Google app, I'm back to zero. You would think everything would work after a factory reset though... I've also posted these videos on the Google Android Auto Community.

  2. Hi all. 

    I'm tacking this ongoing issue of mine, trying to get voice commands to work with Poweramp in Android Auto. I've made two videos where I show this issue, but first of all I perform a factory reset on the phone (LG G8s ThinQ - a 2019 phone). Prior to using this phone I had an LG V20 (a 2016 phone) where I did have success getting voice commands working with Poweramp in Android Auto. 

    Here's the videos... I sincerely appreciate people taking the time to watch these and help me troubleshoot this. :)

    Video - Part 1: Factory Reset: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wo7MFj-DcQ
    Video - Part 2: Android Auto: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gCwW2jLdOE


    Video - Part 3: GPM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGT6t7R5FTI

  3. While looking into this a few weeks back, I found these set of instructions: https://www.guidingtech.com/disable-android-notifications-playing-music/

    Basically you need to install an app like Tasker (it's called Macrodroid) to put the phone into DND mode during music playback. I tried it and it added it's own tiny glitches / split second of music being cut or something similar so I aborted that idea. But to me, it's a bandaid solution. 

  4. Been doing some tests while at work today. Didn't put my phone in vibrate mode like I normally do and started listening to music. Both with wired and Bluetooth headphones (separately, of course). Got several Gmail emails and Facebook Messenger messages while listening to music and all of them forced the music to dip or pause so I could hear the notification alert. Bloody ridiculous! I'm annoyed at this, but to be clear not at Poweramp in any way. I am certain the culprit is Android (cos this wasn't an issue on my old phone which was running Android 7 - I'm currently on 9). 

    Now I'm double checking my Poweramp settings, and in Settings > Headset / Bluetooth > Audio Focus: I have Short Audio Focus Change / Calls ENABLED. The notes for this shows this factors calls, notifications, navigation, etc). I am thinking this needs to be specifically just for calls? And then what if we had a setting like this but just for notifications, etc? My reasoning is this: While working I can listen to music and I don't need to be bothered / interrupted by sounds for emails, messages, etc, but a phone call is usually important. So that's ok to be interrupted. 

    FYI the two other settings in Audio Focus, Duck Volume and Permanent Audio Focus Change are DISABLED. 

  5. On 6/15/2020 at 11:19 PM, MotleyG said:

    Android 10, running stock on LG G8thinQ. I don't mind the notification sounds when music isn't playing or if PA is not running even. But when playing music I'd prefer to not hear the notifications.

    BTW - this happens through the headphone and USB outputs. So even when listening at home on my USB-DAC the notifications are noticeable. I don't use the built-in speaker too often, so I haven't noticed it there.

    I'm on Android 9, running stock on LG G8s ThinQ. I'm in the same boat as you, I don't mind the notifications if the phone is NOT in DND mode, or if Poweramp is running. BUT when Poweramp is playing music, there should be no interruptions to the music. 

    I listen to music with my phone (using Poweramp of course) with wired headphones, in the car via Android Auto with either USB or Bluetooth (it's not clear to me which AA uses) and when at work with Bluetooth headphones. I need to do more testing because the wired headphones is at night when I'm in bed so I have DND running, and thus no notifications are heard. And when I'm at work I put my phone into vibrate only mode. 

  6. 12 hours ago, maxmp said:

    @griff AA can switch between installed players, so when Poweramp is selected in AA, voice commands are aware of the music player context.

    Can you post a screenshot of how this is done, or where in settings it can be done? I know in Android 7 it was an option, but in Android 9 I think it has been removed? 

  7. 23 hours ago, andrewilley said:

    10, but it worked on 9 too. Android versions (and Google Assistant versions) can make a lot of difference, even the implementations between different manufacturers can change/improve/break things (in roughly equal measures). 


    Yeah, true! I've stopped updating Android Auto, the Google app, and Maps. Each time I've done an update a function or feature breaks or stops working and it is infuriating! 


    19 hours ago, maxmp said:

    @griff the AA version of Assistant uses different set of commands (or different implementation, and it probably developed by other team in Google). The commands are more "focused" on the content, so it usually actually understands simple commands like "play something", "shuffle something" better when Poweramp is an active player in AA vs just raw Assistant app on the phone without AA running.

    Thanks! What do you mean by "better when Poweramp is an active player in AA"? 

  8. Thanks Andre! What version of Android are you running on that Samsung Galaxy A70? 

    The most annoying thing for me right now is not being able to speak a verbal command and get AA to play a certain album while I'm driving. Used to work on my LG V20 (running Android 7.0). I still have it so I think I will have to painstakingly compare the Google app and AA app settings side by side with my LG G8s ThinQ until I find what is causing this... 

  9. Hi Andre, 

    Thanks. I uninstalled again, looked for that folder, it was there. Deleted it. Reinstalled Poweramp and Unlocker. My queued files were still queued! I don't get it... Am I missing something else? Oh, and I also did the restore defaults right before uninstalling too! 

    EDIT: Maybe this is normal behaviour?

  10. I think I need to fully uninstall Poweramp and then reinstall it. I've noticed a couple things not working as they should and want to wipe it clean and start afresh.

    I've uninstalled Poweramp, and the Unlocker app, then run my phones smart stock cleaner app for remove any residual files. Then I've restarted the phone, installed Poweramp and the Unlocker app, but my queued music and all my settings are still there! What do I need to do to get a fresh install going? 

  11. Does anyone here use Poweramp in Android Auto? And if you do, do you have voice commands working that will control Poweramp? For example, can you speak a voice command to tell Poweramp to play a specific album while you are driving? 

    I used to be able to (on my now old LG V20, running Android 7), but cannot on my new phone (LG G8s ThinQ,  running Android 9) and it is getting frustrating. Feels like I've taken a step backwards. :(

    I really need someone to help me get Poweramp working in AA 100%! 

  12. Hi Max, thanks heaps for replying! 

    9 hours ago, maxmp said:

    Thanks for the detailed issue description. 

    Does this happen for stock (or any other) player? If it does,  it’s some system level feature/bug/option. Poweramp just receives system message and reacts accordingly: it pauses, ducks volume, or does nothing.
    In Poweramp this is controlled via: Audio / Audio Focus options and per specific Audio / Output / <active output> / <active device> / No Duck option, which forces “pause” behavior.

    Also, if you’re using hi-res output, try to use standard definition outputs (AudioTrack / OpenSL).

    I've just tried with the stock LG music player, and yes, it also gets a volume dip when a message comes in. And as far as I can see there's no option or setting to disable this, unlike Poweramp (go Poweramp!). So that tells us this is an Android system thing right? Android 9 at least. 

    I've gone back into Poweramp Settings and disabled Short Audio Focus Change / Calls and Duck Volume (had to disable this one first). This might be the best solution. I tried having just Duck Volume disabled, but Poweramp won't allow it. 

    I'm not using hi-res output, Poweramp is set to OpenSL ES Output. 

    7 hours ago, MotleyG said:

    @maxmp is there a way to put an option to ignore the duck request, with no pause and no notification sound when PA is playing? I think this is the option that several people are looking for, including myself. I would still like to see the notification pop-up, and the sound would be acceptable, but only if PA is not currently playing. Basically a "No Duck + No Pause + Suppress System Sound" option.

    I def need the music to pause when a call comes through. Glad that is a separate option in Poweramp! Regarding notifications though... messages, emails, other alerts, it is not necessary to pause the music. But yes, we don't want the music to duck! 

  13. Hi all. 

    Just curious who else is using Poweramp in Android Auto, and has Android 9 on their smartphone? I ask because I recently got a new phone (LG G8s ThinQ) and it runs Android 9. Previously I was using an LG V20 which was running Android 7. Now with the new phone I am getting these super annoying volume dips during music playback in Android Auto. I am certain it's not a Poweramp bug, but an Android 9 (or maybe 😎 thing. My wife is also on Android 9 and uses Android Auto in her car, but doesn't use Poweramp (she uses Google Play Music) and she gets the annoying volume dips during music too. These volume dips only happen when the phone gets a notification (message, email, reminder, etc). Here's a video of the issue occurring.

    I've googled the issue and found very, very little. One solution was to install an automation app and then with it create a recipe which will put the phone into DND (Do Not Disturb) mode during music play. Yeah, that works, but it's a band-aid fix IMO. Now you have an extra app running, another notification running, ugh... So either people are not noticing this volume dip issue, or just putting up with it. Cos the volume does return back to the level it was on in about a second. But it is still ridiculously annoying. IMO most people using Poweramp won't just put up with this kind of BS, so I've decided to post here to see if anyone can shed light on this, and hopefully provide a solution!

    EDIT: I am aware Poweramp has a feature in Settings > Audio > Audio Focus, called Short Audio Focus Change / Calls. And in the same Audio Focus settings there's one called Duck Volume. When I have these disabled I simply get the system notification sound playing over the music. So this wasn't a solution either. But it might be my best option? The annoying thing is on my old phone running Android 7 I didn't have to disable these settings. Music playback was simply never interrupted with volume dips! 

  14. @w3wilkes Good to know, ta! 

    @maxmp I did not try resetting the defaults. If I update again I will for sure. It is with Android Auto and with 3.5 headphones. Both were giving me skipping / stuttering. When I temporarily solved this with Hi-Res Output, the skipping still persisted with USB / Android Auto, but it was a little better. But it was fixed with 3.5 headphones. Then of course, it led to another issue, which is why I reverted to build 830. 

  15. Hi all. 

    I solved my skipping / stuttering issue. I was certain the skipping and stuttering started when I updated from v3 build 830 to build 386 and it persisted when I updated again to build 838. So I've reverted to build 830. I get no skipping or stuttering in my playback on build 830, and it's been a couple of days now. My phone is not that old, so I don't think it's unreasonable that a 3 year old phone should be able to handle PA's latest version properly, but it seems that might not be the case. I'm using LG V20 (released Oct 2016). So hopefully if anyone else has this problem, or is still using an LG V20, this might be your solution too. 

  16. Hi again all. My issue is now resolved.

    Long story short: This thread is about the first split second or two (and sometimes last split second or two) being cut from playback. I worked out this issue was directly caused by Hi-Res Output on 3.5 headphones or 3.5 speaker playback. Using the phone's speaker did not have this issue. So disabling Hi-Res Output solved that issue. BUT the reason I enabled Hi-Res Output in the first place was because I was hearing skipping and stuttering on EVERY song (sometimes as much as three times per song). It was intolerable. I was certain the skipping and stuttering started when I updated from v3 build 830 to build 386 and it persisted when I updated again to build 838. So I've reverted to build 830. I get no skipping or stuttering in my playback on build 830, and it's been a couple of days now. My phone is not that old, so I don't think it's unreasonable that a 3 year old phone should be able to handle PA's latest version properly, but it seems that might not be the case. I'm using LG V20 (released Oct 2016). 

    I'm posting this solution in the Skipping and Stuttering Songs thread too for others that might need it. 

  17. Hi all. I'm trying to install an older version of Poweramp. It's only a few releases older than the current. v3 build 836 and 830. Both are here: https://forum.powerampapp.com/files/category/2-Poweramp-v3-latest-releases/

    When I go to install them I am told the files are corrupted. I have tried downloading twice, once from a desktop computer, and again using my smartphone. Both had the same result. Can someone confirm if these files are not corrupted, and I'm doing something wrong? 

  18. Hi Max. 

    On 7/26/2019 at 8:55 PM, maxmp said:

    For 838, when you set manual crossfade to No fading no any fade applied. (Poweramp doesn’t apply any smoothing in this mode, so fast track manual change from loud sound to silence may cause pop/click).

    As for auto advance, if set to No fading, there were no fading prior 838 as well, tracks played in gapless mode.

    I'm not using any crossfading. Auto-advance Fading is also set to No.

    On 7/26/2019 at 8:55 PM, maxmp said:

    If you think some track beginning is skipped, please send this track for tests (via Poweramp list Send action / Gmail / gpmaxmp@gmail.com). Thanks!

    There are actually LOTS of tracks that are subject to the starts being cut. To be clear, it's not skipping per se. What is happening is that the first half-second, split second, or even a full second, is simply not being played. And it's happening to a LOT of tracks. I've noticed it on 4 or 5 albums, and around half the songs on these albums. But I'm hearing it only on the songs with sudden starts. To be clear, it's where the music is loud from the get-go. So no artistic fade in. Some tracks I can also hear that the end is being cut too. I should have mentioned this earlier but I forgot. 

    Did you watch the video I uploaded? Please watch it, here's the link. I think the video explains the issue VERY well. And as mentioned in this post of mine above, when I disable Hi-Res Out the issue does not occur AT ALL. 

    I can still send you some of these tracks that are subject to this issue, but is it absolutely necessary? I think the video shows clearly what the issue is, and that it plays perfectly fine without 3.5 plugged in. Please let me know because I can certainly make more videos showing this issue on another track, and show when I disable Hi-Res Output how it plays perfectly fine too. 

  19. Heh... yeah I only enabled Hi-Res Output cos I wanted to kill the awful skipping I was hearing since updating to PA v838. 

    I am aware in the Hi-Res Output setting it does warn that it is experimental. So maybe it has a bug causing the fade in / cutting start of music issue I'm having. 

  20. Hi again. I did some testing. Played one of the suspect songs in the car. I have Android Auto, so my phone is plugged in via USB. The song played correctly (the very start was NOT cut). This led me to think playing through the 3.5mm headphone jack was the only way to reproduce the issue. Turns out it is. Playing music through my phone using wired headphones is how I first discovered this issue. So later I tried playing the suspect song on the phone's loud-speaker, and there is no issue there. To be sure, I re-riped two CDs that contained suspect songs, the abovementioned one included. I use MediaMonkey, and these settings.

    On top of this, I noticed those 2 albums and another 2 albums with suspect songs had large album artwork (300 DPI and over 1000 x 1000 pixels). I changed all the album art to 72 DPI and 700 x 700 pixels. Copied the re-riped albums to my phone, played them, there was no change, sadly the issue persists. :(

    Then I saw Andre's last post, and have just made a video showing the issue. Please see it here

    I just found the cause. It's the Hi-Res Output Buffer that has done this. I had to enable this recently due to the current version of PA (v838) randomly skipping during song playback. It's in Settings > Audio > Output > Hi-Res Output. I posted about this earlier in the month (it's in this thread). Anyways, in that setting I had both Wired Headset / AUX and USB DAC enabled, and in their respective settings, I had the Buffer Presets set to Huge. I've now tested Buffer sizes Large and Normal, both still reproduce the issue. Only disabling Hi-Res Output will play the song without cutting the start.

    What to do? Let the music skip randomly on nearly every song, or let the start on some songs be cut off? I'm a fairly OCD kinda person so both are not ideal. :(

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