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      Poweramp v3 Project Update   04/24/2017

      As you may be aware, the Poweramp developer has been working hard on an updated material design user interface for Poweramp v3 which required a full ground-up rebuild of the code and is taking some time to get to a beta-test stage. See the forum thread for more details and to discuss.    
andrewilley

Poweramp v3 Project Update (please read first post for latest info before commenting)

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6 minutes ago, andrewilley said:

Because until the coding is finished and everything is connected together, some parts wouldn't work at all, so there would be nothing much to test.

Andre

Okay, but it's been like two years.  I don't know how it can take that long to fit everything together even with no major bugs.

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3 minutes ago, superluig164 said:

Okay, but it's been like two years.  I don't know how it can take that long to fit everything together even with no major bugs.

You can make your own app if you really want to know.....

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Since, I love PA and it hardly any power drain, and best sounding audio to me. I will never move to another player. I have tried all under $5 and it is the best. I will not pay higher for a fugly app. So even if it takes him 2 more years, then I will deal with it but would like it sooner.

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11 minutes ago, andrewilley said:

Yes, the next release will be the first beta-test build which will include Max's new, completely rebuilt, Material Design user interface. So far, all of the 700+ builds have merely been ALPHA-tests to verify that the updated high-res audio engine code for v3 works out in the real world.

Luckily for us - or perhaps more down to Max's programming skills - the 704 build is actually amazing stable for an early alpha release, and I use it as my daily player.

Once the next beta release has finally been issued, hopefully it won't take long to iron out any bugs which a general release might uncover and then move to it being an official v3 release.

All of this is covered in the first post in this thread by the way.

Andre

Andre, 

My issue with the Alpha 704 version is you CANNOT import Settings files into it, EVEN ones CREATED by Alpha 704. So that means every time I get a new phone I have to recreate all my custom EQs, which is annoying. Yes Alpha 704 does work great for the most part, but what's also annoying is how the album covers are not always displayed properly (i.e. the last album I listened to will randomly pop-up while listening to the second or third track of a different album), the Hi-Res output causes CONSTANT crashes (which is why I turned it back off months ago), etc. But really it's the import issue that bugs me the most. IF that issue is gone in the next beta release, I guess I won't mind waiting longer for V3. 

But I do agree with the one poster here............. it would be nice to get regular updates from the Poweramp team via e-mail. I would most definitely welcome it! Anyway, thanks Andre, and everyone here have a Happy New Year too! 

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10 minutes ago, RockStar2005 said:

Andre, 

My issue with the Alpha 704 version is you CANNOT import Settings files into it, EVEN ones CREATED by Alpha 704. So that means every time I get a new phone I have to recreate all my custom EQs, which is annoying. Yes Alpha 704 does work great for the most part, but what's also annoying is how the album covers are not always displayed properly (i.e. the last album I listened to will randomly pop-up while listening to the second or third track of a different album), the Hi-Res output causes CONSTANT crashes (which is why I turned it back off months ago), etc. But really it's the import issue that bugs me the most. IF that issue is gone in the next beta release, I guess I won't mind waiting longer for V3. 

But I do agree with the one poster here............. it would be nice to get regular updates from the Poweramp team via e-mail. I would most definitely welcome it! Anyway, thanks Andre, and everyone here have a Happy New Year too! 

Um, actually you can, just got a new phone a month ago and it worked perfectly fine...

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15 minutes ago, superluig164 said:

Um, actually you can, just got a new phone a month ago and it worked perfectly fine...

 

Wait super.........you're saying that you can import Settings files on ALPHA 704 Poweramp and it WORKS??! 

If so, was that file created IN Alpha 704, or regular V2 Poweramp??

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15 minutes ago, RockStar2005 said:

 

Wait super.........you're saying that you can import Settings files on ALPHA 704 Poweramp and it WORKS??! 

If so, was that file created IN Alpha 704, or regular V2 Poweramp??

I didn't change versions between switching phones so... Yeah lol, it worked for me.  It said it failed but when I checked my EQ list and such everything was the way it was when I backed up (besides the EQs I deleted being restored, but that's normal)

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Whether or not we get it out tonight or not, the app itself is still functional and does a great job of playing back music.

IAs for the high res support commotions. I mean, unless you're all walking around with dacs/ amps and high end earbuds/ headphones... not too sure how big of a difference having high res support really is for you... So again, just take the app for what it currently supports right now. 

 

Also, I'm pretty sure the devs have other things to worry about. I don't believe Poweramp is their main job. I'm sure they have other jobs and tasks and they're very busy with other stuff. 

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2 hours ago, andrewilley said:

I too have emailed Max to see if he had any further news before the end of the year, but he still isn't able to give us a date. He is still working daily on the project, but he says he can't release an app where functions are not complete/not working as intended - especially after all the time already spent on development. 

He did confirm that the Notifications pull-down issue in Android Oreo 8.1 (which is NOT a Poweramp bug by the way, Google broke customised notifications) will be re-programmed around for Android 8+ by the time the next beta is issued.

Andre

Ohh so it will take 2018 .Happy New Year Guys 

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1 hour ago, superluig164 said:

I didn't change versions between switching phones so... Yeah lol, it worked for me.  It said it failed but when I checked my EQ list and such everything was the way it was when I backed up (besides the EQs I deleted being restored, but that's normal)

 

Wow! Ok when I saw "Failed" I just assumed it didn't work. I never checked or noticed a difference. I will have to try it out then and report back here. Thanks super! 

 

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47 minutes ago, dwang040 said:

Whether or not we get it out tonight or not, the app itself is still functional and does a great job of playing back music.

IAs for the high res support commotions. I mean, unless you're all walking around with dacs/ amps and high end earbuds/ headphones... not too sure how big of a difference having high res support really is for you... So again, just take the app for what it currently supports right now. 

 

Also, I'm pretty sure the devs have other things to worry about. I don't believe Poweramp is their main job. I'm sure they have other jobs and tasks and they're very busy with other stuff. 

I honestly don't care that much about the Hi-Res thing, cuz I feel it just provides a volume change not a change in quality, but that's me. But I'm sure a lot of ppl want it. Also, I was told by Alex or Support Team that the ONLY way to get AptX HD with Poweramp is to enable Hi-Res Audio Output, or else it just uses AptX I guess. I don't use wireless headphones, so for me it doesn't matter, but a lot of ppl do these days, so for them it would def make a difference as AptX HD they say does sound better noticeably better than AptX. 

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26 minutes ago, RockStar2005 said:

 

Wow! Ok when I saw "Failed" I just assumed it didn't work. 

Again, due to the lack of updates recently, don't worry to much if stuff fails. Its just that comparability with new roms and jew version of Android are a but shakey and not 100% compatible. 

22 minutes ago, RockStar2005 said:

But I'm sure a lot of ppl want it. Also, I was told by Alex or Support Team that the ONLY way to get AptX HD with Poweramp is to enable Hi-Res Audio Output, or else it just uses AptX I guess. I don't use wireless headphones, so for me it doesn't matter, but a lot of ppl do these days, so for them it would def make a difference as AptX HD they say does sound better noticeably better than AptX. 

Okay. I've never been a wireless guy, so I can't comment much on AptX. I've always been told, "wired sounds better than wireless." so I just assumed that if people cared enough for high res, they were probably using wired. Oops, assuming things in 2017. :/

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8 minutes ago, dwang040 said:

Again, due to the lack of updates recently, don't worry to much if stuff fails. Its just that comparability with new roms and jew version of Android are a but shakey and not 100% compatible. 

Okay. I've never been a wireless guy, so I can't comment much on AptX. I've always been told, "wired sounds better than wireless." so I just assumed that if people cared enough for high res, they were probably using wired. Oops, assuming things in 2017. :/

 

Yeah. I will check it later and see. 

I agree, wired IS better. But at some point soon I believe we will FINALLY be in a place where wireless actually does match wired sound. Advances in wireless tech like AptX HD will be the reason for that eventually occurring. 

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Back in May when people were saying after Max said he couldn't release it then because he kept running into problems and people said by the end of the year it would probably still be in development I thought they were joking

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2 hours ago, superluig164 said:

I didn't change versions between switching phones so... Yeah lol, it worked for me.  It said it failed but when I checked my EQ list and such everything was the way it was when I backed up (besides the EQs I deleted being restored, but that's normal)

Just tried it super.................got the "failed/can't read file" message. When I checked the EQs I could see it did NOT import the file at all. None of the new EQs were showing up, only the previous ones. Tried it again, but had the same result. Oh well. lol 

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1 hour ago, RockStar2005 said:

Just tried it super.................got the "failed/can't read file" message. When I checked the EQs I could see it did NOT import the file at all. None of the new EQs were showing up, only the previous ones. Tried it again, but had the same result. Oh well. lol 

Huh.  I guess I was just lucky.  Sorry for bringing your hopes up :/

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2 hours ago, dwang040 said:

Again, due to the lack of updates recently, don't worry to much if stuff fails. Its just that comparability with new roms and jew version of Android are a but shakey and not 100% compatible. 

Okay. I've never been a wireless guy, so I can't comment much on AptX. I've always been told, "wired sounds better than wireless." so I just assumed that if people cared enough for high res, they were probably using wired. Oops, assuming things in 2017. :/

From what I read about bluetooth is that the sound pressure is always lower than wired. Two things that keep me from bluetooth headphones or earphones. One is lower soundpressure or db, and second is so expensive for only max 30 hours of playback. Where wired are endless listening to only phone battery. So I rather have endless listening without worrying about charging. So for phones taking out headphone jacks are never going to be purchased from me.

Oh and don't give me there is an adapter included. Those could ruin the ports if you put phone in your pocket.

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56 minutes ago, superluig164 said:

Huh.  I guess I was just lucky.  Sorry for bringing your hopes up :/

 

Haha no problem. Let's just hope we hear something SOON! lol

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Poweramp is dead. Sadly and suddenly realized on this new year's day. (Or maybe I should say this after 7hrs when it's 1st, Jan in Los Angeles.🤔)

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Why do people get their hopes up for something that is not going to happen?

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2 minutes ago, utahman1971 said:

Why do people get their hopes up for something that is not going to happen?

It will happen, eventually, but too late to care about. 

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We,all should give 1star rating in play store...

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Did we even get a source straight from the devs saying, "Yes, the new revamp will be released on January 1st." If we did, I never saw it. A rumor will always be a rumor, and if there anything to learn, it's that rumors are never true. Rumor said the new iPhone does this. Nope. Rumor says the new amd gpu does that. Nope. 

Lesson here. Don't listen to something that's not fully backed up. 

Also, you give 1* reviews to apps that are broken/ do not work or if it's just not worth it. Poweramp still works well as a music player and functions well. Sire, I suppose the high res support isn't best for AptX HD, but other than that, I see no reason for down votes and bad reviews. 

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17 hours ago, RockStar2005 said:

But I do agree with the one poster here............. it would be nice to get regular updates from the Poweramp team 

I wish Max would spend a bit of time updating the users here too. He doesn't frequent these forums any more as he found that too many threads like this one became a waste of his time, and any time he spent debating things here was time away from actually doing something useful. But a simple monthly progress update would go a long way towards curbing the more excessively entitled whingers. ;)

Andre

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5 hours ago, andrewilley said:

I wish Max would spend a bit of time updating the users here too. He doesn't frequent these forums any more as he found that too many threads like this one became a waste of his time, and any time he spent debating things here was time away from actually doing something useful. But a simple monthly progress update would go a long way towards curbing the more excessively entitled whingers. ;)

Andre

He and/or his Support Team just responded to me earlier this morning. Pretty vague though.  

 

Hello from Poweramp support team!
We are still working on it hard.


Thanks!

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