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Joe Gent

Shuffle not rotating through all songs

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HA!

I was about to make a thread about this issue. Am on the latest Alpha and I have a playlist of 700 Songs, and it literally plays the 20 Tupac Songs I have 70% of the time. It's frustrating, very frustrating. 

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4 hours ago, verycoolalan said:

HA!

I was about to make a thread about this issue. Am on the latest Alpha and I have a playlist of 700 Songs, and it literally plays the 20 Tupac Songs I have 70% of the time. It's frustrating, very frustrating. 

What method are you using to play in shuffled order? Also are you stopping playback at all, or is this one continuous session? Within one session that just shouldn't happen.

Andre

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I stumbled on the same issue.

Ver. 704

About 1600 songs 

Shuffle set to all songs

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I don't know if it's the same, but I've always had an issue with Poweramp playing all songs.  It seems like I get stuck in a rut with the same songs playing, but once I add or subtract any songs from my phone, I get a whole new set of songs I'm stuck with.  I'll actually start hearing songs I haven't heard in weeks. 

I do kind of want to do a test and log the songs that pop up, but that sounds like work.

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7 hours ago, dumahim said:

I do kind of want to do a test and log the songs that pop up, but that sounds like work.

Unfortunately it would be hard to track this sort of thing down without some hard evidence. I did try a while back, using a limited set of files in a folder to allow me to check they all played, and each one played exactly once. Max is adamant that unless the list gets reset (e.g. by deleting a file during playback, changing the shuffle mode, etc) PA shouldn't allow the same physical file to be played twice within one shuffle session.

Andre

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I never solved the issue. The only pattern I could find is it only happens on large playlists (over several hundred). I think it would be easy if the shuffle algorithm or process was revealed so maybe we could figure out what's going on. Unfortunately this issue made me give up on Poweramp entirely. Well at least until the next version comes out.  

What's funny is I still create and update my playlists from Poweramp because its the easiest for me and it accurately identifies newly added songs compared to the rest of the apps. Then I export that SAME list (that has the issue in Poweramp only) to a few other players and I rarely hear the same song played twice with those other apps' shuffle algorithms.. 

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For shits and giggles, I wanted to start a small sample test so I set it to shuffle all songs and picked the first song in my folders as a starting point.  I backed out of the app and paused to use the widget to keep track of the song number because it'll list them out like 1/879, 2/879, and so on.  So I write down the first song, hit skip and it jumped to 3/879 completely skipping 2.  Strange.  I hit back and I got 2, but it was my first song again.  I left the phone alone for a bit while writing this down and when I hit forward again, it jumped to 4 and played my original #2 song.  

Ok, so I decided to start over, but leave the music playing and again outside the app and only using the widget.  This time, the tracks played correctly and I went up to 200 with no repeats.  I paused it again for a couple minutes and hit back a bunch of times and it appears to be tracking the songs correctly.  However, while writing this paragraph, still paused, I hit forward again and instead of going to #185, it jumped back to showing #200, but it's song #195 on the list.  Left alone for another minute, hit forward and it jumped to 202 to a new song not in the original 200 and not the song after the original #195 I had previously.  After a bit more of a break, I skipped ahead a few tracks and went back and now the song originally on #195 is now 201, instead of 200 as it was the last time.  Hit forward again and it jumped to 206.  As Andrewilley suggested before, pausing should not cause a reshuffle (not that this seems like a reshuffle issue anyway) and I doubt the app is being cleared from memory in the short breaks I've taken to write.  Especially with the screen left on.  If anything, it seems that while paused and not in the app, it seems to be losing track of where it is in the list or forgot how to math.

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I have the same issue and it may be related to the post above by @dumahim. You see, I listen with Poweramp in my car (when not using Android Auto) and have about 5000 songs on my device that I shuffle through. However, the steering wheel control for playing the next track is kind of glitchy and will sometimes trigger the following after a single, deliberate press:

  • Go to the previous track.
  • Go to the previous track, then play the next track (a.k.a. repeat the current song. I know it's registering 2 clicks because the "beep-beep" sound between forced song changes plays twice in rapid succession)
  • Go to the previous track, then play the next track, then hold the button, causing fast-forward to occur.

I have a feeling it is messing up the list counting and causing songs to repeat, or something. I'll have to run more tests by listening while not driving or simply not using the steering wheel controls to change song.

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