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      Poweramp v3 Project Update   04/24/2017

      As you may be aware, the Poweramp developer has been working hard on an updated material design user interface for Poweramp v3 which required a full ground-up rebuild of the code and is taking some time to get to a beta-test stage. See the forum thread for more details and to discuss.    


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  1. That's the problem when the developer is absent. Why should we believe any information allegedly coming from the developer? Not even from the moderator himself who has contacted the developer multiple times to no effect. I am not saying the image is not true (only time will tell) but I'm just pointing out that there is something inherently wrong with the communication channels in this forum!
  2. Well, imagine going to an Apple store to ask about Linux ...
  3. Can't compare apples to oranges. So far, Max's approach is hitting on everybody's nerves yet the majority of the forum accepts that his sound engine is (one of) the best out there. So qualitywise, his approach is working. The moment that another app matches PA's quality it will be time for some changes. And for what is worth I believe that this moment is very, very close. I also do not consider that PA is dead until the majority of the user base gets tired of Max's behaviour and switches to another app. And this moment is even closer. PA would be dead because there will be no feedback for future alphas or betas. To me saying that the users voted for Material Design was a nice excuse in the beginning. Users (including myself) voted but without the proper knowledge of the development timescale (assuming that Max is working full-time on it, which I doubt, somehow he has to keep feeding himself and beta development does not provide food). Speaking from experience, all development runs into trouble at some point (that's a rule) but at least we should have been tipped of. And last, at least some mockups should have been distributed. Why develop and then find that users may have better ideas? Isn't that what the testing is all about?
  4. I can't agree more with points 3, 4 and 5. I will consider to download and check UAPP for point 2 and for switching away from PA in general. Point 1 is debatable. I mostly agree with "Paying for an upgrade would not have gotten Poweramp here any quicker." although this may have introduced the missing driving factor. As for the "good enough" quality of the alpha version I am of the opinion that users favour stability over the tendency of testing new features. Sure, testing is always interesting, especially when substancial new features are introduced but at some point innovation must mature to stability. I wonder how Max would improve the beta if most of his user base was tired of waiting and migrated to other players in the meantime. I recently switched back to Android 4.4.2 as a result of my phone dying on me and found out that Hiby player actually sounds better than PA alpha on this version of Android. I'm sticking with it until I buy a new phone.
  5. Well, assuming that, as time goes by, Max is progressing then every new estimate must be more accurate than the past ones ...
  6. Much more clearer and detailed as long as you listen to flac files and with headphones that cost more than, say, 50 Euros. It also depends on your specific device, my experience is with LG G3 and Focal Sphear and is an absolute joy.
  7. Do you have any idea how many developers Google uses for Chrome alone? How can this be compared to PA?
  8. Have you checked the "Use Wakelock" setting under Settings\Misc? I had a similar problem with my LG G3 and checking this took care of it.
  9. And to be honest Max's perfectionism defies the purpose of the beta ... What if the expected beta introduces a new bug?
  10. No, Max should not lie at all, you completely misunderstood. Instead of just announcing a further delay, he could focus on the positive aspects of development, phones that would be supported in the new version, problems that have been overcome, maybe post a screenshot or two, let us know what's holding him back, etc. It's totally different to expect something that is approaching slowly than to expect something that you are not sure it's coming at all. And to be honest Max raised the bar a lot with the alphas. I believe that much is more than clear by now ...
  11. I think that happens because the only thing he says is that there is going to be a further delay ... And this applies specifically to the ones that are stuck on Nougat 7.0 ROMs (assuming that 7.1 does not suffer from the bug that does not let people use the hi-res output as someone mentioned in the other thread for alpha 703/704).
  12. Guys, how does all this relate to PA v3 update? I guess we all agree here that PA is our beloved player, that's why we are here for. Then once it is out feel free to play your music, either flac, mp3, or any other format. No need to convince the rest of the world about your taste.
  13. Compressed yes, lossy no. It's like a zip file, you do not lose any information. But we are starting another thread here, best stay with the long awaited update.
  14. That's why I wrote that the greater risk from this situation lies with Max. I believe I was pretty accurate.
  15. I agree with @clever_man above. When stable PA version purchased there were no guarantees for updates. Just a product that was worth bying for some at the time. Suddenly a new alpha version comes out and everybody is getting nervous and starts harrassing the developer. For me with a relatively old phone even the alpha version is worth paying for as it works flawlessly. People with newer devices are understandably more anxious as they want to experience what others already do. As a first impression the new skin is nothing to die for but until I try the whole interface I hold back any criticism. Anyway if it is easy to create skins there is always the possibility that, with time, people will create skins. I cannot comment on Max's development skills as I am not a developer myself. Could it be done faster? Perhaps. Better? Perhaps. Prettier? The same. But it is what it is and I only agree with just the first sentence of @spacebar2011post, that this discussion is pointless. As things stand right now the greater risk from the delays lies with the developer himself if other similar apps reach the same level of sound quality/friendliness/put-whatever-you-care-for-here and people move away from PA.
  16. Just noticed it. @AdamZamoyski is right to be dissapointed. No one forced the developer to do it or do it alone. It was his choice and his alone. If @AdamZamoyski (or any of us for that matter) had the will, time, skill and resources to start developing he would not be here as a user. On the other hand I can understand @andrewilley as he is literally caught in the middle and this often creates frustration, especially if one of the parties is completely non-responsive. Seriously though, if Max continues to act this way then I'm sorry to say, this forum serves no purpose at all!
  17. I have actually more or less repeated what @woper map says above. There is a prolonged silence from the developer and the project updates so far from @andrewilley do not really reflect the kind or volume of the current development work (only the developer can do this) but are for the most part related to the ETA. Do I like it? No, I do not and I kind of feel like @spacebar2011 mentioned above ("borderline disrespectful by now"). My personal preference would be a communication along the lines of the TeraCopy app for Windows, see for example http://blog.codesector.com/ Do I want to move away? No, I do not yet (therefore, I stay patient and hope that v3 beta will arrive sooner than later). I consider PA the overall best music app for Android so far, especially v3 with room for further improvement. I am willing to try other things though, once they are available. I really do not understand how nagging is expected to make things move faster. Either the developer has run into serious unexpected problems (one thing brought the other) or he is trying to balance his other life and v3 development. Either way, that's the way things are, people should respect this fact and (since it's a free world) it's up to them to move on if they are not happy.
  18. Hi Once v3 is out I would like to see variable output instead of fixed (i.e. no upsampling). Better still, if we could choose which bitrates to upsample or not to upsample and PA would take care of the rest. Thanks again for an awesome app!
  19. What if music is mixed (mp3, cd quality, 96 and 192kHz)? Should we use 96kHz or upsample everything to 192kHz?
  20. I second this. Maybe an engine update once v3 is up and running?
  21. @p50kombi I can tell you that whoever is running an alpha version on his smartphone is perfectly capable of finding an alternative app, test it and decide whether he is happy with it or not. I have used almost every app in the store that claims to do what pa is achieving, somehow I always come back to pa. IMO your friendly consumer advice is not supposed to be in the forum of a competitor app, you can use the Play Store rating for that matter and (to be honest) I feel it is insulting my intelligence. And if you do not use Poweramp any more you may still keep the alpha version installed and be notified for an update, in which case, if it suits you, you are welcome to come back, otherwise delete it once and for all from your device. That's the way I see it. I am not going to say anything further. Case closed as far as I am concerned.
  22. I feel very happy for you @p50kombi that you met your other half but what exactly are you doing in a Poweramp forum and a thread for an alpha version of it? Just let us be and enjoy your music ...
  23. It's up to Max not to. So far, he has been very consistent in not participating for the reasons above.